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Sensitivity to the sun?

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Hi, I’ve been keeping a headache diary over the past few weeks per the advice from others in this group since my migraines have gotten worse. One trend that I am noticing is that often I start to get a migraine if I’ve been out in the sun for a few minutes. Its not a long time, but I guess it does not take long to trigger a headache? I’ve also been noticing over the last month or so that sometimes lights seem much brighter than usual, however it usually seems to be sunlight that is serving as a possible trigger for the headaches. Does anyone have any advice or answers as to why all of the sudden I would become super sensitive to the sun or other forms of bright light and is this normal? Thanks, David

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I have always thought that very bright light was a trigger for migraine episodes for some people.  Perhaps you are one.  You now know to avoid bright sun w/out a hat and sunglasses. — Sharon Boring Amabile Wife, mother, perpetual student and frequent volunteer

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ve been keeping a headache diary over the past few weeks per the advice from others in this group since my migraines have gotten worse. One trend that I am noticing is that often I start to get a migraine if I’ve been out in the sun for a few minutes. Its not a long time, but I guess it does not take long to trigger a headache? I’ve also been noticing over the last month or so that sometimes lights seem much brighter than usual, however it usually seems to be sunlight that is serving as a possible trigger for the headaches. Does anyone have any advice or answers as to why all of the sudden I would become super sensitive to the sun or other forms of bright light and is this normal? Thanks, David

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Two thoughts on this one, from a red head with fair skin who is very sensitive to sunlight  .  . 1  live in the UK – sunshine is a rare, warming  and welcome occurrence! 2  when the Sun does come out, I find dark glasses – whether slab tint or photochromic –  make little or no difference, wheras Polarised lenses make a huge difference because they actually modify the light patterns. They are now available as prescription lenses – whether as single focus, or bi/tri-focals or Varifocal lenses in the UK – my Optician["optometrist" to those who live on the other side of The Pond] imports mine for me – from the USA. Expensive but very effective when the sun does shine in UK or when we go to Southern Europe   .   .  tho incidentally I find the problems greatest when the Sun is low in the sky, as it is at these northerly latitudes,  and presumably the Sun’s rays enter the eye at a much more direct/unfortunate angle. Malcolm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bright lights/bright sunlight are a trigger for me too David. My specs have photochromatic lenses for this very reason!

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Bright lights/bright sunlight are a trigger for me too David. My specs have photochromatic lenses for this very reason! In the summer, the general brightness of the days means I am permanently wearing shades – so I look *kewl* too ;-) During the winter, when the sun is low in the sky, I need to wear shades as, for example, when driving, the sun flickering through the trees of the roadside verges is a really strong trigger. Cheers, helen s Flush out that intestinal parasite and/or the waste product before sending a reply! Any speeliong mistake$ aR the resiult of my cats sitting on the keyboaRRRDdd

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You most definitely have been bitten by a vampire.  This is a natural part of the transformation ***J/k**** I also get migraines from bright sunlight, especially when flickering (from tree branches moving, etc).  Sunglasses are a definite must for me. My skin is also very easily sunburned (like 15 minutes and I’m cooked) Misty Devine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ve been keeping a headache diary over the past few weeks per the advice from others in this group since my migraines have gotten worse. One trend that I am noticing is that often I start to get a migraine if I’ve been out in the sun for a few minutes. Its not a long time, but I guess it does not take long to trigger a headache? I’ve also been noticing over the last month or so that sometimes lights seem much brighter than usual, however it usually seems to be sunlight that is serving as a possible trigger for the headaches. Does anyone have any advice or answers as to why all of the sudden I would become super sensitive to the sun or other forms of bright light and is this normal? Thanks, David

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1  live in the UK – sunshine is a rare, warming  and welcome occurrence!

So do I :) Past few days have been *glorious* here in Norfolk :) 2  when the Sun does come out, I find dark glasses – whether slab tint or photochromic –  make little or no difference,

The photochromatic are fine for me – they just seem to lower the light intensity enough so as not to trigger a migraine for me. Cheers, helen s Flush out that intestinal parasite and/or the waste product before sending a reply! Any speeliong mistake$ aR the resiult of my cats sitting on the keyboaRRRDdd

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Killed himself because he was sensitive to the sun??  Don’t have to worry about me.  I have survived worse than a sunburn and never suicided.

Fair skin and polycythemia .. and porphyria .. coincidentally … CNS involvement .. finally .. light/sun sensitivity – People with very fair skin tend to be sensitive to the sun’s rays and burn much faster. People with light colored eyes may find that bright lights are more painful because more light is able to enter their eyes, more so than someone with dark brown eyes. There are several medical disorders that can cause sun sensitivity. Porphyria, photophobia, lupus, and xeroderma pigmentosum, to name a few. Medications and herbal supplements can also cause light/sun sensitivity. Among these are St. John’s Wort, Dong Quai, antihistamines, anti-inflammatories, antibiotics, birth-control pills, medications for high blood pressure, and nearly all psychiatric medications. http://www.lionsgrove.com/vamptraits.html migraine headaches – First of all, be sure that what you’re experiencing is in fact a migraine. It isn’t just a ‘really bad’ headache. Sufferers will usually experience visual disturbances such as auras or blind spots followed by an intense pain on one side of the head, usually behind the eye. Sufferers tend to become sensitive to light and nauseated during this time. They can also experience some numbness on the side of the body opposite of the pain. Ask me how I know :) . No one knows the exact cause of migraine headaches, but researchers have deduced that environmental influences can trigger a migraine. Triggers are varied. For me, migraines usually came after a highly stressful period. For my sister, it’s strong smells. Migraine headaches are also believed to be hereditary, which is somewhat evident by my own immediate family. Of the five members, only my father has not experienced them. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Man, what do you have against iron??  Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim?? What a cheap way to dye hair!! No .. Any studies / medical articles place by me are very unreliable .. don’t you recall .. ?

I do recall.  But if you are going to make a claim, support it.  We can judge for ourselves whether the article is unreliable or not. Medline .. let me suggest .. ‘red hair and iron’ ..

www.medline.com?  It is a "health care supply catolog"  NOT an information source. try again.

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Man, what do you have against iron??  Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim?? What a cheap way to dye hair!!

No .. Any studies / medical articles place by me are very unreliable .. don’t you recall .. ? Medline .. let me suggest .. ‘red hair and iron’ .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You most definitely have been bitten by a vampire.  This is a natural part of the transformation ***J/k**** I also get migraines from bright sunlight, especially when flickering (from tree branches moving, etc).  Sunglasses are a definite must for me. My skin is also very easily sunburned (like 15 minutes and I’m cooked) A friend of mine was just the same .. had a real problem with the sunlight .. could not tan .. really fair skinned. I spoke to him several times about the possibility of there being an iron involvement. Never moved on it .. Killed himself .. Who loves ya. Tom —

Killed himself because he was sensitive to the sun??  Don’t have to worry about me.  I have survived worse than a sunburn and never suicided. I was born with fair skin – iron didn’t do it, I swear!  Poor iron, always being picked on… Bring me some liver, I feel deficient!! Misty

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Man, what do you have against iron??  Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim?? What a cheap way to dye hair!! No .. Any studies / medical articles place by me are very unreliable .. don’t you recall .. ? I do recall.  But if you are going to make a claim, support it.  We can judge for ourselves whether the article is unreliable or not. Medline .. let me suggest .. ‘red hair and iron’ .. www.medline.com?  It is a "health care supply catolog"  NOT an information source. try again.

Biochim Biophys Acta 2002 Jun 6;1571(2):157-66 Metal ions as potential regulatory factors in the biosynthesis of red hair pigments: a new benzothiazole intermediate in the iron or copper assisted oxidation of 5-S-cysteinyldopa. Di Donato P, Napolitano A, Prota G Department of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry, University of Naples Federico II, Complesso Universitario Monte S. Angelo, Via Cinthia 4, I-80126, Naples, Italy [Medline record in process] In the presence of iron or copper ions, the course of the oxidation in air of 5-S-cysteinyldopa (1), the main biosynthetic precursor of pheomelanins and trichochromes, was markedly changed affording two main products. One of these was identified as the oxobenzothiazine 8, previously obtained under nonphysiologically relevant conditions, while the other was characterized as the novel hydroxybenzothiazole 9. Besides 8 and 9, carboxylated and noncarboxylated benzothiazine products were obtained by persulfate oxidation of 1 in the presence of iron or copper ions. The ratio of formation yields of carboxylated/noncarboxylated benzothiazines, determined after reduction o f the mixture, was lower than that of the control reaction run in the absence of metal ions, and much lower than that of the oxidation carried out in the presence of zinc ions, in agreement with a recent report. Notably, 8 and 9 were formed in variable yields under different oxidation conditions including tyrosinase/O(2), peroxidase/hydrogen peroxide, and the hydrogen peroxide/or (9E,11Z,13S)-13-hydroperoxyoctadeca-9,11-dienoic acid/Fe(III) systems. Mechanistic routes to 8 and 9 were proposed based on the results of experiments involving in situ generation of labile benzothiazine intermediates. Overall, these results allow to formulate an improved biosynthetic scheme in which metal ions act as critical regulatory factors determining pheomelanin vs. trichochromes formation. PMID: 12049796, UI: 22045070 Who loves y.a. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two thoughts on this one, from a red head with fair skin who is very sensitive to sunlight  .  . Iron overload .. *genetic* iron overload has been traced back to the Irish , Scottish and Viking heritage. All coincidentally . red haired. A small town in Texas had their water accidently contaminated with iron .. and the inhabitants of the town became redhaired. Animals studies have confirmed the FACT ..iron turns hair red . Uveitis .. sensitivity to sunlight has been shown to involve a lack of antioxidants .. and iron destroys antioxidants. The native population here in Canada has an incidence of 9 x 1 in diabetes. Iron has now been so closely involved in diabetes that researchers have now recommended iron reduction in at least 40% of all type 2 diabetics in the world. You will be hardpressed to find even ONE .. eyeglass wearing native in Canada who DOES NOT wear the tinted glasses .. evidencing the prevalence of sensitivity to sunlight. Just thought I’d mention it .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

Man, what do you have against iron??  Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim??  What a cheap way to dye hair!! Misty

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You most definitely have been bitten by a vampire.  This is a natural part of the transformation ***J/k**** I also get migraines from bright sunlight, especially when flickering (from tree branches moving, etc).  Sunglasses are a definite must for me. My skin is also very easily sunburned (like 15 minutes and I’m cooked)

A friend of mine was just the same .. had a real problem with the sunlight .. could not tan .. really fair skinned. I spoke to him several times about the possibility of there being an iron involvement. Never moved on it .. Killed himself .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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Two thoughts on this one, from a red head with fair skin who is very sensitive to sunlight  .  .

Iron overload .. *genetic* iron overload has been traced back to the Irish , Scottish and Viking heritage. All coincidentally . red haired. A small town in Texas had their water accidently contaminated with iron .. and the inhabitants of the town became redhaired. Animals studies have confirmed the FACT ..iron turns hair red . Uveitis .. sensitivity to sunlight has been shown to involve a lack of antioxidants .. and iron destroys antioxidants. The native population here in Canada has an incidence of 9 x 1 in diabetes. Iron has now been so closely involved in diabetes that researchers have now recommended iron reduction in at least 40% of all type 2 diabetics in the world. You will be hardpressed to find even ONE .. eyeglass wearing native in Canada who DOES NOT wear the tinted glasses .. evidencing the prevalence of sensitivity to sunlight. Just thought I’d mention it .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Biochim Biophys Acta 2002 Jun 6;1571(2):157-66 Metal ions as potential regulatory factors in the biosynthesis of red hair pigments: a new benzothiazole intermediate in the iron or copper assisted oxidation of 5-S-cysteinyldopa. Di Donato P, Napolitano A, Prota G Department of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry, University of Naples Federico II, Complesso Universitario Monte S. Angelo, Via Cinthia 4, I-80126, Naples, Italy [Medline record in process] In the presence of iron or copper ions, the course of the oxidation in air of 5-S-cysteinyldopa (1), the main biosynthetic precursor of pheomelanins and trichochromes, was markedly changed affording two main products. One of these was identified as the oxobenzothiazine 8, previously obtained under nonphysiologically relevant conditions, while the other was characterized as the novel hydroxybenzothiazole 9. Besides 8 and 9, carboxylated and noncarboxylated benzothiazine products were obtained by persulfate oxidation of 1 in the presence of iron or copper ions. The ratio of formation yields of carboxylated/noncarboxylated benzothiazines, determined after reduction o f the mixture, was lower than that of the control reaction run in the absence of metal ions, and much lower than that of the oxidation carried out in the presence of zinc ions, in agreement with a recent report. Notably, 8 and 9 were formed in variable yields under different oxidation conditions including tyrosinase/O(2), peroxidase/hydrogen peroxide, and the hydrogen peroxide/or (9E,11Z,13S)-13-hydroperoxyoctadeca-9,11-dienoic acid/Fe(III) systems. Mechanistic routes to 8 and 9 were proposed based on the results of experiments involving in situ generation of labile benzothiazine intermediates. Overall, these results allow to formulate an improved biosynthetic scheme in which metal ions act as critical regulatory factors determining pheomelanin vs. trichochromes formation. PMID: 12049796, UI: 22045070 Who loves y.a. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore!

http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING

http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking That means nothing.  You know that no one can decifer that.

YOU can’t decipher .. it .. Not my fault .. You got an article directly from the largest medical database in the world .. That’s what you asked for .. that’s what you got .. Youhave not posted the study in its entirety, and have given us no link to source it from.

I am not about to begin posting URLs for medline. If you cannot find medline .. you are SOL .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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"Ironjustice", trolls   .  . . who IS this guy? I’ve had red hair since I was born. I come from a  family  with red hair on both sides of the blood line and they have almost all lived into their 80s and 90s. I am a Celt. None of us is raving. Does this guy want to tell me anything I don’t know about my lineage? And when it comes to Iron  .   .   .  I grew up being called "Rusty"! As for the rest of the stuff  .   .   . is all this because Ironjustice or Tom or whoever s/he is comes from Canada, which I seem to remember from some elementary Geology, is particulalrly rich in all manner of minerals? Give us all a break  .  .  and being English, I’ll add "please". —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two thoughts on this one, from a red head with fair skin who is very sensitive to sunlight  .  . Iron overload .. *genetic* iron overload has been traced back to the Irish , Scottish and Viking heritage. All coincidentally . red haired.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Ironjustice", trolls   .  . . who IS this guy? I’ve had red hair since I was born. I come from a  family  with red hair on both sides of the blood line and they have almost all lived into their 80s and 90s. I am a Celt. None of us is raving. Does this guy want to tell me anything I don’t know about my lineage? And when it comes to Iron  .   .   .  I grew up being called "Rusty"! As for the rest of the stuff  .   .   . is all this because Ironjustice or Tom or whoever s/he is comes from Canada, which I seem to remember from some elementary Geology, is particulalrly rich in all manner of minerals? Give us all a break  .  .  and being English, I’ll add "please".

I met a nice british woman (and her husband who was also nice) in Belize. She was so sun sensitive she wore gloves. I told her it all seemed "so British", her donning her hat and gloves after lunch. rorschandt

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Killed himself because he was sensitive to the sun??  Don’t have to worry about me.  I have survived worse than a sunburn and never suicided.

How did the above comment bring on that tirade of "info"??  Wasn’t asking thanks.  You still didn’t answer my question.  Why would someone kill themselves because of sun sensitivity?? Fair skin and polycythemia .. and porphyria .. coincidentally … CNS involvement .. finally .. light/sun sensitivity – People with very fair skin tend to be sensitive to the sun’s rays and burn much faster. People with light colored eyes may find that bright lights are more painful because more light is able to enter their eyes, more so than someone with dark brown eyes. There are several medical disorders that can cause sun sensitivity. Porphyria, photophobia, lupus, and xeroderma pigmentosum, to name a few. Medications and herbal supplements can also cause light/sun sensitivity. Among these are St. John’s Wort, Dong Quai, antihistamines, anti-inflammatories, antibiotics, birth-control pills, medications for high blood pressure, and nearly all psychiatric medications.

My sun sensitivity is really not that big of a problem for me.  I just put on sunscreen and sunglasses.  I have been sensitive my whole life.  Just born with pale skin.  It isn’t any meds or anything I am on.  If anything my skin has gotten tougher over the years. http://www.lionsgrove.com/vamptraits.html

Strange source….  not exactly medical info or anything….  A riot to read though *lmao* migraine headaches – First of all, be sure that what you’re experiencing is in fact a migraine. It isn’t just a ‘really bad’ headache.

Please don’t lecture me on what is or isn’t a migraine headache.  You don’t know me or my history.  I know what a migraine is.  I have been diagnosed over and over by several doctors.  No one doubts that I suffer from migraines. Sufferers will usually experience visual disturbances such as auras or blind spots followed by an intense pain on one side of the head, usually behind the eye. Sufferers tend to become sensitive to light and nauseated during this time.

DUH…. who are you lecturing here??  I think everybody in here has the basics down… They can also experience some numbness on the side of the body opposite of the pain.

Not always opposite side.  My face goes numb on the same side as the pain. Ask me how I know :) .

Probably from reading this NG. No one knows the exact cause of migraine headaches, but researchers have deduced that environmental influences can trigger a migraine. Triggers are varied. For me, migraines usually came after a highly stressful period. For my sister, it’s strong smells. Migraine headaches are also believed to be hereditary, which is somewhat evident by my own immediate family. Of the five members, only my father has not experienced them. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

Honestly, I find it insulting that you lecture me like a child who is faking it or something.  Especially when I didn’t ask any questions to provoke it.  And you don’t even know anything about me. No wonder everyone in here is pissed at you.  You are very condescending.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Man, what do you have against iron??  Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim?? What a cheap way to dye hair!! No .. Any studies / medical articles place by me are very unreliable .. don’t you recall .. ? I do recall.  But if you are going to make a claim, support it.  We can judge for ourselves whether the article is unreliable or not. Medline .. let me suggest .. ‘red hair and iron’ .. www.medline.com?  It is a "health care supply catolog"  NOT an information source. try again. Biochim Biophys Acta 2002 Jun 6;1571(2):157-66 Metal ions as potential regulatory factors in the biosynthesis of red hair pigments: a new benzothiazole intermediate in the iron or copper assisted oxidation of 5-S-cysteinyldopa. Di Donato P, Napolitano A, Prota G Department of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry, University of Naples Federico II, Complesso Universitario Monte S. Angelo, Via Cinthia 4, I-80126, Naples, Italy [Medline record in process] In the presence of iron or copper ions, the course of the oxidation in air of 5-S-cysteinyldopa (1), the main biosynthetic precursor of pheomelanins and trichochromes, was markedly changed affording two main products. One of these was identified as the oxobenzothiazine 8, previously obtained under nonphysiologically relevant conditions, while the other was characterized as the novel hydroxybenzothiazole 9. Besides 8 and 9, carboxylated and noncarboxylated benzothiazine products were obtained by persulfate oxidation of 1 in the presence of iron or copper ions. The ratio of formation yields of carboxylated/noncarboxylated benzothiazines, determined after reduction o f the mixture, was lower than that of the control reaction run in the absence of metal ions, and much lower than that of the oxidation carried out in the presence of zinc ions, in agreement with a recent report. Notably, 8 and 9 were formed in variable yields under different oxidation conditions including tyrosinase/O(2), peroxidase/hydrogen peroxide, and the hydrogen peroxide/or (9E,11Z,13S)-13-hydroperoxyoctadeca-9,11-dienoic acid/Fe(III) systems. Mechanistic routes to 8 and 9 were proposed based on the results of experiments involving in situ generation of labile benzothiazine intermediates. Overall, these results allow to formulate an improved biosynthetic scheme in which metal ions act as critical regulatory factors determining pheomelanin vs. trichochromes formation. PMID: 12049796, UI: 22045070 Who loves y.a. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

That means nothing.  You know that no one can decifer that.  You have not posted the study in its entirety, and have given us no link to source it from.  The actual text of this "study" says nothing about hair.  You know that not all of us in here are doctors or med students and think you can dupe us by using some jargonny big worded technical report.  You think we will give up trying to translate it and just accept it as truth.  I bet you can’t even translate all that gobbledy gook. You don’t impress me.  Anyone can cut and paste – it takes real intelligence and knowledge to explain and summarize something.  It takes even more intelligence and knowledge, and a real large supply of _wisdom_ to put it in simple terms that everyone can understand.  You have demonstrated none of these traits in this post.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Ironjustice", trolls   .  . . who IS this guy? I’ve had red hair since I was born. I come from a  family  with red hair on both sides of the blood line and they have almost all lived into their 80s and 90s. I am a Celt. None of us is raving. Does this guy want to tell me anything I don’t know about my lineage? And when it comes to Iron  .   .   .  I grew up being called "Rusty"! As for the rest of the stuff  .   .   . is all this because Ironjustice or Tom or whoever s/he is comes from Canada, which I seem to remember from some elementary Geology, is particulalrly rich in all manner of minerals? Give us all a break  .  .  and being English, I’ll add "please".

Hey now…. I’m from Canada.  Don’t see me "trolling". This guy is an idiot.  Please don’t judge Canadians based on him. Misty Devine *proud Canadian*

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That means nothing.  You know that no one can decifer that. YOU can’t decipher .. it ..

Can you decipher it?  I repeat my comment (that you conveniently cut out) Anyone can cut and paste – it takes real intelligence and knowledge to explain and summarize something.  It takes even more intelligence and knowledge, and a real large supply of _wisdom_ to put it in simple terms that everyone can understand.  You have demonstrated none of these traits in this post. Not my fault .. You got an article directly from the largest medical database in the world

I got PART of an article .. That’s what you asked for .. that’s what you got ..

You did not supply a source.  Prove it. Youhave not posted the study in its entirety, and have given us no link to source it from. I am not about to begin posting URLs for medline. If you cannot find medline .. you are SOL .. Who loves ya. Tom

Idiot.

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What exactly do photochromatic lenses do? Are they better than polarized lenses for example? David

photochromatic simply go dark in bright light & light/clear in dim light and varying shades inbetwen as the light changes. For me, they just reduce glare/brightness enough to avoid the light acting as a trigger. If I haven’t got my contacts in, I need specs to drive/watch telly/cinema etc., as I am shortsighted. Having the photochromatic lenses means I don’t have to keep switching from sunglasses to ordinary specs as I go from inside to out and back to inside again. See http://www.thursoeyecare.co.uk/Light%20Sensitive%20Lenses.htm for a pic of the effect of them working. Cheers, helen s Flush out that intestinal parasite and/or the waste product before sending a reply! Any speeliong mistake$ aR the resiult of my cats sitting on the keyboaRRRDdd

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What exactly do photochromatic lenses do? Are they better than polarized lenses for example? David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bright lights/bright sunlight are a trigger for me too David. My specs have photochromatic lenses for this very reason! In the summer, the general brightness of the days means I am permanently wearing shades – so I look *kewl* too ;-) During the winter, when the sun is low in the sky, I need to wear shades as, for example, when driving, the sun flickering through the trees of the roadside verges is a really strong trigger. Cheers, helen s Flush out that intestinal parasite and/or the waste product before sending a reply! Any speeliong mistake$ aR the resiult of my cats sitting on the keyboaRRRDdd

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Ah yes. Sun, firecracker displays, strobe lights, fluorescent lights, spotlights, any bright light in my face, searchlights, and movies. –Julianne

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http://www.lionsgrove.com/vamptraits.html Strange source….  not exactly medical info or anything….  A riot to read though *lmao*

Isn’t it wonderful! Tom just got done writing that he posts ‘medical articles’ and here he is, sending us to a site where the owner says: "I spent quite a bit of time talking to real vamps and… " "Skip past the part where I find out about real vampires, psivamps, and my "personal god." That’s not really what he is, and he does gently correct me when I refer to him that way, but that’s the easiest way to describe him to other people. He’s a friend and a guide. And I call him Mr. B." Now THAT’s a medical reference site alright! You gotta love the guy! Paul

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