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Allergies/breathing problems?

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

In article , Beverley wrote >Bumbles will sting but only as a last resort as it is their death sentence.

I thought they could retract the sting and reuse it, unlike honey bees. >So no, you don’t want to pick one up and hold it.

Agreed! — Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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Bumbles will sting but only as a last resort as it is their death sentence. So no, you don’t want to pick one up and hold it. While working at the estate one of my guys hit a hive of bumbles. They came swarming out and got on me and under my loose shirt. I was on the ground right next to them. Well, so much for being modest – that shirt came off and quickly. But I was never stung as I tried to keep from squishing them between my skin and the material. I just kept telling myself that they don’t want to sting me. Everyone I worked with knew I was deadly allergic to bee stings. Not a single sting. I was lucky. They were panic stricken because we hit their home a perfectly logical reason to sting. We left them alone and moved what we were going to place there to a different spot. I would not allow someone to destroy their hive or kill them. Had that been yellow-jackets or wasps I’d probably not have been here to tell anyone. Carpenter bees, I believe, do not have stingers but the problem is they look very much like bumbles. But carpenters are very territorial and therefore keep the other nasty wasps and yellows-jackets away. Honey bees (American and English) are also very tranquil except for the African honey bees (aka killer bees). Fortunately the African bees have not migrated this far north. I’ve made my husband keep some of the old fence posts. We’ve dropped them into the garden so the carpenters will stay in my back yard. I’ll use the old unpainted fence posts for vines, etc. It’s so important to teach the children to respect nature. If I don’t who will? Bev "RhondaM" wrote in message

news:6exhc.325$3c3.79@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> owwwwieeee…….My hubby was mowing to close to a bumble bee nest and was > stung on the ankle and had to go get a steroid injection. > Those little buggars sting!!! > "Andy" wrote in message > news:RV7h5QF4oohAFwwQ@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk… > > In article , Beverley > > wrote > > [ > > >I was petting a bumble bee today while trying to explain to the children > > >nice bees from nasty yellowjackets and wasps. I don't think the bumble > was > > >too happy with me - he was quite busy with a flower. > > My father once told me that when he was a child a friend told him that > > bumble bees could not sting. So he picked up a Queen Bumble, about 2" > > long. > > The friend was misinformed... > > -- > > Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] > > See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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In article , Beverley wrote [ >I was petting a bumble bee today while trying to explain to the children >nice bees from nasty yellowjackets and wasps. I don't think the bumble was >too happy with me - he was quite busy with a flower.

My father once told me that when he was a child a friend told him that bumble bees could not sting. So he picked up a Queen Bumble, about 2" long. The friend was misinformed... -- Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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owwwwieeee…….My hubby was mowing to close to a bumble bee nest and was stung on the ankle and had to go get a steroid injection. Those little buggars sting!!! "Andy" wrote in message

news:RV7h5QF4oohAFwwQ@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article , Beverley > wrote > [ > >I was petting a bumble bee today while trying to explain to the children > >nice bees from nasty yellowjackets and wasps. I don't think the bumble was > >too happy with me - he was quite busy with a flower. > My father once told me that when he was a child a friend told him that > bumble bees could not sting. So he picked up a Queen Bumble, about 2" > long. > The friend was misinformed... > -- > Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] > See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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Freezing June bugs? LOL I thought the fun was tying string to them and then letting them fly like airplanes in a circle overhead. June bugs are considered garden pests – closely relates to Japanese beetles. You are talking about the greenish large beetles? Bev "RhondaM" wrote in message

news:cbmhc.196$NK6.190@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oh my gosh is today just the day for teaching our kiddos about bugs…….I > had to give my 8 year old a lesson on why he shouldn’t go around squishing > June bugs. He likes to pull their wings off and put them in my freezer. I > had to have a LONG talk with him. I am not sure if it is a "boy" thing or a > sense of power. He is the youngest of three boys and the others just run all > over him. Ahah……I have answered my own question….now to see how I can > make him feel more empowered. He is fascinated with all creatures and has > bought several books trying to learn about them it could be just natural > curiosity. We need another trip to the Zoo. > RhondaM > "SBC" wrote in message > news:M3lhc.175$H36.20@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com… > > I feel the same way. I am trying to do the same with my grandchildren. > > David > > Life would be so much easier if I could view the source code > > "Beverley" wrote in message > > news:Takhc.31577$L31.10739@nwrddc01.gnilink.net… > > > Nope, I don’t think so. > > > I’ve also probably eaten 3x’s my peck of dirt in my lifetime. I still > > think > > > it has something to do with why I am so healthy – LOL! > > > I was petting a bumble bee today while trying to explain to the children > > > nice bees from nasty yellowjackets and wasps. I don’t think the bumble > was > > > too happy with me – he was quite busy with a flower. I try so hard to > > teach > > > the children to respect nature and to know which things they need to > > > distance themselves from and which ones can occupy the same space with > > them. > > > You don’t kill a bug because it exists. Just like snakes, there are > > friendly > > > ones and one you need to leave alone. > > > Bev > > > "RhondaM" wrote in message > > > news:%ihhc.19470$Fu2.18821@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com… > > > > And I think someone figured out that during our lifetime we will eat > 26 > > > > spiders while we sleep. > > > > Does this count all the bugs that fly up our noses and mouth? > > > > OK I think beef is my choice of protein……. > > > > "J" wrote in message > > > > news:4083058E.5AF1D1F@execulink.com… > > > > > These things live by the millions in our bedding, pillows, curtains, > > > > > mattresses/down the inside sides of mattresses, clothing, mops, > cloth > > > > > chairs, shoes/boots or couches and carpets. I also think they may > live > > > > > in certain types of wallpaper, stacks or bags of papers etc. > > > > > Dust mites ! > > > > > http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm > > > > > Besides what’s mentioned there, I use a high powered vacuum cleaner > > with > > > > > a crevice tool > > > > > it’s a pointy thing to do the perimeter of every room, it’s also > great > > > > > to go around the edges of rooms, baseboards, and behind furniture, > > > > > window ledges, under stoves and fridges or the perimeter of the > celing > > > > > for dust and spider webs. > > > > > I even do my car at least twice a year. > > > > > http://www.vacuum-cleaner.com/1571.html I’m not advocating any > product > > > > > there, just showing you what crevice tool is. > > > > > So I try to do each room, bit by bit, at least 4 or 5 times a year. > > > > > So if you or someone in your family has breathing problems, there’s > > some > > > > > tips that might help. > > > > > FYI and FWIW > > > > > Hugs > > > > > J

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These things live by the millions in our bedding, pillows, curtains, mattresses/down the inside sides of mattresses, clothing, mops, cloth chairs, shoes/boots or couches and carpets. I also think they may live in certain types of wallpaper, stacks or bags of papers etc. Dust mites ! http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm Besides what’s mentioned there, I use a high powered vacuum cleaner with a crevice tool it’s a pointy thing to do the perimeter of every room, it’s also great to go around the edges of rooms, baseboards, and behind furniture, window ledges, under stoves and fridges or the perimeter of the celing for dust and spider webs. I even do my car at least twice a year. http://www.vacuum-cleaner.com/1571.html I’m not advocating any product there, just showing you what crevice tool is. So I try to do each room, bit by bit, at least 4 or 5 times a year. So if you or someone in your family has breathing problems, there’s some tips that might help. FYI and FWIW Hugs J

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ewwwwwwwww……I am going to wash my sheets three times a week I know they said every other week but this is gross…. Makes you think about the post above about cleaning mini blinds…. "J" wrote in message

news:4083058E.5AF1D1F@execulink.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> These things live by the millions in our bedding, pillows, curtains, > mattresses/down the inside sides of mattresses, clothing, mops, cloth > chairs, shoes/boots or couches and carpets. I also think they may live > in certain types of wallpaper, stacks or bags of papers etc. > Dust mites ! > http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm > Besides what’s mentioned there, I use a high powered vacuum cleaner with > a crevice tool > it’s a pointy thing to do the perimeter of every room, it’s also great > to go around the edges of rooms, baseboards, and behind furniture, > window ledges, under stoves and fridges or the perimeter of the celing > for dust and spider webs. > I even do my car at least twice a year. > http://www.vacuum-cleaner.com/1571.html I’m not advocating any product > there, just showing you what crevice tool is. > So I try to do each room, bit by bit, at least 4 or 5 times a year. > So if you or someone in your family has breathing problems, there’s some > tips that might help. > FYI and FWIW > Hugs > J

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RhondaM wrote: > ewwwwwwwww……I am going to wash my sheets three times a week I know they > said every other week but this is gross…. > Makes you think about the post above about cleaning mini blinds….

Hi Rhonda oh yes, right.- mini blinds.. I was feeling guilty because I’ve not laundered my bedclothes for a while after seeing the TV program, which prompted me to search the subject out. It does say bi-weekly but the TV show – 60 minutes? (I forget) said weekly for sheets, probably bi-weekly for other bedding. Its worse for whatever is touching the body or near where we breathe in. I’ve been aware of them for years but some people have so many troubles with breathing or allergies and don’t realize how much trouble these "little boogers" (where’s Maggie) can cause. Next time we can talk about what lives on lettuce…maybe Hugs J

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You don’t want to see what walks all over your food or you’d never eat another bite. LOL Ok, now just imagine what the world would look like if you didn’t have these scavengers around eating up our dead skin. We’d be knee deep in dead skin and it would probably clog our waterways, etc. BTW, brushing your teeth has nothing to do with cavity prevention. It does help sweep away the food that the bacteria feeds on but that is about it. But of course bacteria eat therefore they defecate. It’s their feces (acidic) that "eats" at our teeth. When the feces builds up it tends to harden in the mouth and causes plaque. So that morning breath is nothing more mouth bacteria sewage. Which brings up the old adage "if it smells like shit, it probably is" But remember that bacteria is essential for your digestive system and overall health. Too much mouthwash destroys all the bacteria including the good guys. And I think someone figured out that during our lifetime we will eat 26 spiders while we sleep. Sleep tight and don’t let the bedbugs bite. Bev "J" wrote in message

news:40833195.2D5F6D62@execulink.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> RhondaM wrote: > > ewwwwwwwww……I am going to wash my sheets three times a week I know they > > said every other week but this is gross…. > > Makes you think about the post above about cleaning mini blinds…. > Hi Rhonda > oh yes, right.- mini blinds.. > I was feeling guilty because I’ve not laundered my bedclothes for a while after > seeing the TV program, which prompted me to search the subject out. > It does say bi-weekly but the TV show – 60 minutes? (I forget) said weekly for > sheets, probably bi-weekly for other bedding. Its worse for whatever is > touching the body or near where we breathe in. > I’ve been aware of them for years but some people have so many troubles with > breathing or allergies and don’t realize how much trouble these "little > boogers" (where’s Maggie) can cause. > Next time we can talk about what lives on lettuce…maybe > Hugs > J

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Beverley wrote: > You don’t want to see what walks all over your food or you’d never eat > another bite. LOL > Ok, now just imagine what the world would look like if you didn’t have these > scavengers around eating up our dead skin. We’d be knee deep in dead skin > and it would probably clog our waterways, etc. > BTW, brushing your teeth has nothing to do with cavity prevention. It does > help sweep away the food that the bacteria feeds on but that is about it. > But of course bacteria eat therefore they defecate. It’s their feces > (acidic) that "eats" at our teeth. When the feces builds up it tends to > harden in the mouth and causes plaque. So that morning breath is nothing > more mouth bacteria sewage. Which brings up the old adage "if it smells like > shit, it probably is" But remember that bacteria is essential for your > digestive system and overall health. Too much mouthwash destroys all the > bacteria including the good guys. > And I think someone figured out that during our lifetime we will eat 26 > spiders while we sleep. > Sleep tight and don’t let the bedbugs bite. > Bev

Oh well, it’s protein ) and/or yuck, no wonder I get out of bed and get rid of spiders dangling down from the ceiling. Hugs J

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And I think someone figured out that during our lifetime we will eat 26 spiders while we sleep. Does this count all the bugs that fly up our noses and mouth? OK I think beef is my choice of protein……. "J" wrote in message

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Nope, I don’t think so. I’ve also probably eaten 3x’s my peck of dirt in my lifetime. I still think it has something to do with why I am so healthy – LOL! I was petting a bumble bee today while trying to explain to the children nice bees from nasty yellowjackets and wasps. I don’t think the bumble was too happy with me – he was quite busy with a flower. I try so hard to teach the children to respect nature and to know which things they need to distance themselves from and which ones can occupy the same space with them. You don’t kill a bug because it exists. Just like snakes, there are friendly ones and one you need to leave alone. Bev "RhondaM" wrote in message

news:%ihhc.19470$Fu2.18821@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And I think someone figured out that during our lifetime we will eat 26 > spiders while we sleep. > Does this count all the bugs that fly up our noses and mouth? > OK I think beef is my choice of protein……. > "J" wrote in message > news:4083058E.5AF1D1F@execulink.com… > > These things live by the millions in our bedding, pillows, curtains, > > mattresses/down the inside sides of mattresses, clothing, mops, cloth > > chairs, shoes/boots or couches and carpets. I also think they may live > > in certain types of wallpaper, stacks or bags of papers etc. > > Dust mites ! > > http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm > > Besides what’s mentioned there, I use a high powered vacuum cleaner with > > a crevice tool > > it’s a pointy thing to do the perimeter of every room, it’s also great > > to go around the edges of rooms, baseboards, and behind furniture, > > window ledges, under stoves and fridges or the perimeter of the celing > > for dust and spider webs. > > I even do my car at least twice a year. > > http://www.vacuum-cleaner.com/1571.html I’m not advocating any product > > there, just showing you what crevice tool is. > > So I try to do each room, bit by bit, at least 4 or 5 times a year. > > So if you or someone in your family has breathing problems, there’s some > > tips that might help. > > FYI and FWIW > > Hugs > > J

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I feel the same way. I am trying to do the same with my grandchildren. David Life would be so much easier if I could view the source code "Beverley" wrote in message

news:Takhc.31577$L31.10739@nwrddc01.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Nope, I don’t think so. > I’ve also probably eaten 3x’s my peck of dirt in my lifetime. I still think > it has something to do with why I am so healthy – LOL! > I was petting a bumble bee today while trying to explain to the children > nice bees from nasty yellowjackets and wasps. I don’t think the bumble was > too happy with me – he was quite busy with a flower. I try so hard to teach > the children to respect nature and to know which things they need to > distance themselves from and which ones can occupy the same space with them. > You don’t kill a bug because it exists. Just like snakes, there are friendly > ones and one you need to leave alone. > Bev > "RhondaM" wrote in message > news:%ihhc.19470$Fu2.18821@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com… > > And I think someone figured out that during our lifetime we will eat 26 > > spiders while we sleep. > > Does this count all the bugs that fly up our noses and mouth? > > OK I think beef is my choice of protein……. > > "J" wrote in message > > news:4083058E.5AF1D1F@execulink.com… > > > These things live by the millions in our bedding, pillows, curtains, > > > mattresses/down the inside sides of mattresses, clothing, mops, cloth > > > chairs, shoes/boots or couches and carpets. I also think they may live > > > in certain types of wallpaper, stacks or bags of papers etc. > > > Dust mites ! > > > http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm > > > Besides what’s mentioned there, I use a high powered vacuum cleaner with > > > a crevice tool > > > it’s a pointy thing to do the perimeter of every room, it’s also great > > > to go around the edges of rooms, baseboards, and behind furniture, > > > window ledges, under stoves and fridges or the perimeter of the celing > > > for dust and spider webs. > > > I even do my car at least twice a year. > > > http://www.vacuum-cleaner.com/1571.html I’m not advocating any product > > > there, just showing you what crevice tool is. > > > So I try to do each room, bit by bit, at least 4 or 5 times a year. > > > So if you or someone in your family has breathing problems, there’s some > > > tips that might help. > > > FYI and FWIW > > > Hugs > > > J

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Oh my gosh is today just the day for teaching our kiddos about bugs…….I had to give my 8 year old a lesson on why he shouldn’t go around squishing June bugs. He likes to pull their wings off and put them in my freezer. I had to have a LONG talk with him. I am not sure if it is a "boy" thing or a sense of power. He is the youngest of three boys and the others just run all over him. Ahah……I have answered my own question….now to see how I can make him feel more empowered. He is fascinated with all creatures and has bought several books trying to learn about them it could be just natural curiosity. We need another trip to the Zoo. RhondaM "SBC" wrote in message

news:M3lhc.175$H36.20@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I feel the same way. I am trying to do the same with my grandchildren. > David > Life would be so much easier if I could view the source code > "Beverley" wrote in message > news:Takhc.31577$L31.10739@nwrddc01.gnilink.net… > > Nope, I don’t think so. > > I’ve also probably eaten 3x’s my peck of dirt in my lifetime. I still > think > > it has something to do with why I am so healthy – LOL! > > I was petting a bumble bee today while trying to explain to the children > > nice bees from nasty yellowjackets and wasps. I don’t think the bumble was > > too happy with me – he was quite busy with a flower. I try so hard to > teach > > the children to respect nature and to know which things they need to > > distance themselves from and which ones can occupy the same space with > them. > > You don’t kill a bug because it exists. Just like snakes, there are > friendly > > ones and one you need to leave alone. > > Bev > > "RhondaM" wrote in message > > news:%ihhc.19470$Fu2.18821@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com… > > > And I think someone figured out that during our lifetime we will eat 26 > > > spiders while we sleep. > > > Does this count all the bugs that fly up our noses and mouth? > > > OK I think beef is my choice of protein……. > > > "J" wrote in message > > > news:4083058E.5AF1D1F@execulink.com… > > > > These things live by the millions in our bedding, pillows, curtains, > > > > mattresses/down the inside sides of mattresses, clothing, mops, cloth > > > > chairs, shoes/boots or couches and carpets. I also think they may live > > > > in certain types of wallpaper, stacks or bags of papers etc. > > > > Dust mites ! > > > > http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm > > > > Besides what’s mentioned there, I use a high powered vacuum cleaner > with > > > > a crevice tool > > > > it’s a pointy thing to do the perimeter of every room, it’s also great > > > > to go around the edges of rooms, baseboards, and behind furniture, > > > > window ledges, under stoves and fridges or the perimeter of the celing > > > > for dust and spider webs. > > > > I even do my car at least twice a year. > > > > http://www.vacuum-cleaner.com/1571.html I’m not advocating any product > > > > there, just showing you what crevice tool is. > > > > So I try to do each room, bit by bit, at least 4 or 5 times a year. > > > > So if you or someone in your family has breathing problems, there’s > some > > > > tips that might help. > > > > FYI and FWIW > > > > Hugs > > > > J

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lupus/ms?

admin — Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Nice ocean and beach tho – where is the picture of ??? Roarke "lassy" wrote in message

news:15632-4037BC8B-61@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am sorry, I dinna know I could not put the ocean picture up. It will > not happen again.

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I am ANA positive with speckled pattern. And am senisitve to the sun and floursent lighting I started taking that Keppra stuff and oh my gosh, it turned me into a zombie, but my shaking has subsided some, the Keppra also has knocked my cordnation off a bit. I am hoping that the side effects will go away in time as I dearly love driving, even if it is taking my kids to school lol. My reg doc said that ms and lupus are like great pretenders and can mimic one another. I know that about the lupus, but I don’t know much about ms. I had a spinal tap when I was 18 due to a horrid headache, I don’t remember much, but I do remember screaming and they were looking for meningitis. I beleive they had to send that test out because it was a small town. I hope everyone has a safe and happy weekend. Melody

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There is nothing wrong with pictures being attached to your posting. I just posted one on the Copaxone posting a few minutes ago. Just do not use the .GIF or .BMP format and no unwanted hitchhikers will take advantage of the situation. Jack N Dalton "lassy" wrote in message

news:15632-4037BC8B-61@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am sorry, I dinna know I could not put the ocean picture up. It will > not happen again.

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:11:00 GMT, "jack n dalton" wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis: >There is nothing wrong with pictures being attached to your posting.

Fewer and fewer news servers are permitting binary messages or attachments in text only groups such as ASMS. Forte APN and Newsguy do not nor does the popular free server in Germany. I cannot find binary associated with any message from you and Earthlink is being cavalier if they are permitting such. If pictures or any other binary file are to be sent then they should be posted in a binary group or from a web site. __ *

I'm new

admin — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 00:00:00 +0000

Question:

Welcome Christy! I’m glad you’re here & hope you can find the support you’re looking for. I have had my Lupus-like illness for over 10 years, so I know it gets discouraging sometimes. Have you had organ involvement? I can’t really answer the mouth sore question as I don’t get them very often & they aren’t like yours when I do. We did have a thread awhile back about them though, so look for another post from me soon, k? I’ll go do the Google! : ) aHug4u, Maggie

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Hi Christy! I couldn’t find the other thread about mouth sores from awhile back. It must have been under another subject heading. I know others here do have these problems though & they will be along. Do you notice a reaction to any foods or types of lights? Your tongue sounds like something that happens to Mair, when she eats cherries or stays under flourescent lights too long. She will most likely post if she’s feeling up to it. Hugs, Maggie

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JD…@webtv.net wrote: > Hi Christy! > I couldn’t find the other thread about mouth sores from awhile back. It > must have been under another subject heading.

I wish we had a mini-FAQ about mouth sores, there’s so much in the archives of what worked or didn’t. http://tinyurl.com/2mo7l See 3 Feb 2004 (but there’s more further back in time, including watching out for what’s in the toothpaste) It’s finding the time to go through them all, collect the list and run it by the group…… Hugs J

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WARMSUMERNITEZ wrote: > This is my first time responding, I have had lupus for about 12 years and I as > many have come close to dying from it. It is nice to see so many people on here > typing messages to each other and being supportive and informative we really > need a place to type out our feelings and vent our frustrations about this > illness that has us confused. Year after year I wonder if there will be a day > where we will see some kind of break through to cure us of this illness and > still nothing just more medicine’s. I do have a question I noticed a message > about mouth sores I suffer from mouth sores I have a problem where the inside > of my mouth right now is very raw and so swollen you notice that is swollen > from the outside because my cheek is swollen anyone else with this problem and > if so any ideas on how to get some relief from it. > thanks > christy s.

Hello christy and welcome to the newsgroup. J

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Hi Christy, Welcome. This is the place to share and vent. We take turns doing that, so jump right in. I am glad that you found us. I am looking forward to getting to know you better. I am Canadian. There are a few of us here. I am not one of the clever ones, who can provide lots of info. I am usually around to listen though, so chat away. BJ-Sk. Canada "WARMSUMERNITEZ" wrote in message

news:20040217012026.13622.00001813@mb-m27.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is my first time responding, I have had lupus for about 12 years and I as > many have come close to dying from it. It is nice to see so many people on here > typing messages to each other and being supportive and informative we really > need a place to type out our feelings and vent our frustrations about this > illness that has us confused. Year after year I wonder if there will be a day > where we will see some kind of break through to cure us of this illness and > still nothing just more medicine’s. I do have a question I noticed a message > about mouth sores I suffer from mouth sores I have a problem where the inside > of my mouth right now is very raw and so swollen you notice that is swollen > from the outside because my cheek is swollen anyone else with this problem and > if so any ideas on how to get some relief from it. > thanks > christy s.

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Hi Christy! [picture me digging my way out of a pile of totally unnecessary paperwork] Here I am! I get several sorts of things with my mouth, but none of them sound like what you are having. None of them swells up like that. I get painful lesions in and at the sides of my mouth, seemingly due to acidic fruits (but only sometimes). And I get a painless condition where the inside of my mouth blisters and all the skin peels off. This seems mainly due to flourescent lighting… it happens when I go into the supermarket. Even though it is painless, when that happens, I know I am receiving rays that are harmful to myself, and I try to get out of the store as soon as I can. And just this year I have started having a problem with my tongue being very painful. The first few times it happened, I thought it was from a burn. Then I started really looking at my tongue, and I noticed it had a small line down the center, turning into a crack! Well, that is a sign of B vitamin deficiency, so I started doubling up on my vitamins, and that very painful situation is now cleared up. But I don’t have anything like what you have, with the swelling and all. It sounds like you need an anti-inflammatory of some sort, with all that swelling. Do you have a good rheumatologist? You need to have a capable doctor take a look at your mouth. Hoping you feel better soon… Mair "BJ" wrote in message

news:1034cuhmjaal6ca@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Christy, > Welcome. This is the place to share and vent. We take turns doing that, so > jump right in. I am glad that you found us. I am looking forward to getting > to know you better. I am Canadian. There are a few of us here. I am not one > of the clever ones, who can provide lots of info. I am usually around to > listen though, so chat away. > BJ-Sk. Canada > "WARMSUMERNITEZ" wrote in message > news:20040217012026.13622.00001813@mb-m27.aol.com… > > This is my first time responding, I have had lupus for about 12 years and > I as > > many have come close to dying from it. It is nice to see so many people on > here > > typing messages to each other and being supportive and informative we > really > > need a place to type out our feelings and vent our frustrations about this > > illness that has us confused. Year after year I wonder if there will be a > day > > where we will see some kind of break through to cure us of this illness > and > > still nothing just more medicine’s. I do have a question I noticed a > message > > about mouth sores I suffer from mouth sores I have a problem where the > inside > > of my mouth right now is very raw and so swollen you notice that is > swollen > > from the outside because my cheek is swollen anyone else with this problem > and > > if so any ideas on how to get some relief from it. > > thanks > > christy s.

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This is my first time responding, I have had lupus for about 12 years and I as many have come close to dying from it. It is nice to see so many people on here typing messages to each other and being supportive and informative we really need a place to type out our feelings and vent our frustrations about this illness that has us confused. Year after year I wonder if there will be a day where we will see some kind of break through to cure us of this illness and still nothing just more medicine’s. I do have a question I noticed a message about mouth sores I suffer from mouth sores I have a problem where the inside of my mouth right now is very raw and so swollen you notice that is swollen from the outside because my cheek is swollen anyone else with this problem and if so any ideas on how to get some relief from it. thanks christy s.

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cellulitis

admin — Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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Has anyone ever had cellulitious secondary to lupus? I have it on my face now and I was wondering if anyone has had similar experiences. RhondaM

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"RhondaM" wrote in message > Has anyone ever had cellulitious secondary to lupus? I have it on my face > now and I was wondering if anyone has had similar experiences. > RhondaM

Hi Rhonda, I have had severe cellulitis on my calf that went up my leg and into my groin and a surgeon was called in to see about possible amputation… scary scary situation but it did resolve itself without any drastic measures with iv antibiotics and treatments. I haven’t had a bout since but I am very careful to not break skin with a razor or out doors (never wear skirts or shorts) and watch my foot care as that too can create a problem with infection… I am sorry to hear you have it on your face! How did it start there? Hope you are feeling better soon and hugs to you from me, Shelagh

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I Am not sure how. Maybe I had something on my hands and rubbed my eye??? I Am better today swelling is almost gone and antibiotics are responding well. Back to work tomorrow. I hope everything is going well with the group.. I ve been a lurker lately..:o) "Shelagh" wrote in message

news:0%ttb.397728$6C4.74865@pd7tw1no… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "RhondaM" wrote in message > > Has anyone ever had cellulitious secondary to lupus? I have it on my > face > > now and I was wondering if anyone has had similar experiences. > > RhondaM > Hi Rhonda, > I have had severe cellulitis on my calf that went up my leg and into my > groin and a surgeon was called in to see about possible amputation… > scary scary situation but it did resolve itself without any drastic > measures with iv antibiotics and treatments. I haven’t had a bout since > but I am very careful to not break skin with a razor or out doors (never > wear skirts or shorts) and watch my foot care as that too can create a > problem with infection… I am sorry to hear you have it on your face! > How did it start there? > Hope you are feeling better soon and hugs to you from me, > Shelagh

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Hi Rhonda! It’s good to hear from you, but I’m sorry to hear you’re going through this. From what I read, you get cellulitis from a cut, scrape, even a dog or cat bite/scratch. It’s not contagious, they said, but the eye thing makes sense if it’s in your eye too. The site I found referred to children, but I imagine that’s just because they get so many scrapes & cuts & are more susceptible to this skin infection. The face & lower legs are the most common areas for cellulitis. Maybe that will ease your mind a bit. I hope it clears up soon. How is work going for you & how’s the Remecade working? Hugs, Maggie P.S. If someone responds, please include my post as Rhonda has had trouble viewing mine in the past. TIA

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The remecade is ok. I found out I need a port. My veins just cant hold up anymore. I am holding on to all the strength I can get just to be able to work. It is nice to see you again! wrote in message

news:20340-3FB86858-277@storefull-2156.public.lawson.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Rhonda! > It’s good to hear from you, but I’m sorry to hear you’re going through > this. From what I read, you get cellulitis from a cut, scrape, even a > dog or cat bite/scratch. It’s not contagious, they said, but the eye > thing makes sense if it’s in your eye too. > The site I found referred to children, but I imagine that’s just because > they get so many scrapes & cuts & are more susceptible to this skin > infection. The face & lower legs are the most common areas for > cellulitis. Maybe that will ease your mind a bit. > > I hope it clears up soon. How is work going for you & how’s the > Remecade working? > Hugs, > Maggie > P.S. If someone responds, please include my post as Rhonda has had > trouble viewing mine in the past. TIA

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Thalomid anyone?

admin — Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:45:51 -0400, "shelia" wrote: >I just started taking this and wondering if anyone had good news withit. I >stopped cytoxan to start this one. so any news would be a help. shelia

It’s largely given to treat the rashes and other skin conditions associated with lupus. But it does seem to hold some promise. For those who might not recall – Thalidomide was the nasty drug used in the 50s/60s to help pregnant women deal with "morning sickness." It turned out to cause horrific birth defects (I believe at 100%.) So obviously there are some stringent rules on prescribing and taking this drug. But otherwise, it seems to be something worth investigating and may actually be less toxic for some of us vs. the chemo drugs. The Pennsylvania chapter just published a small blurb about it in their newsletter. I’d recommend checking out www.lupus.org and searching for possible articles on-line that will give you more info and perhaps put you in contact with other patients using this medication. Best of luck with it – keep us updated on how it goes. takecare, kcat

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Sheila, I have taken Thalidomide for my skin rash, I started to get neuropathy (spelling) which caused me to lose feeling in my fingers and toes. I was told to stop taking it due to these effects. I did however start to notice an improvement in the rash prior to stopping it. I hope this helps and hope even more it works for you. — Brad On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:45:51 -0400, "shelia" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text - wrote: >I just started taking this and wondering if anyone had good news withit. I >stopped cytoxan to start this one. so any news would be a help. shelia

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I just started taking this and wondering if anyone had good news withit. I stopped cytoxan to start this one. so any news would be a help. shelia

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Hi Shelia! I’ve heard of it, but don’t remember what it’s for. This probably means someone here has taken it & is at the beach for the weekend & will post when they see your question. : ) It’s good to see your post! What’s the med for? Do you have Lupus? I don’t think you ever told us too much about your illness(es), so I’m curious about you. : ) Hugs4u, Maggie

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shelia wrote: > I just started taking this and wondering if anyone had good news withit. I > stopped cytoxan to start this one. so any news would be a help. shelia

Thalidomide? http://www.lupus.org/education/articles/thalidomide.html Only a handful of posts in the archives. http://tinyurl.com/sffx J

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sunscreen?

admin — Sat, 22 Mar 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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This has probably been discussed before, but I can’t find the thread. First time going away since being diagnosed w/ DLE – need a good (non greasy?) sunscreen recommendation. I hate greasy feeling. TIA, Kim

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"B’s Mom" wrote in message

news:Qw1fa.179394$F1.7728@sccrnsc04… > This has probably been discussed before, but I can’t find the thread. > First time going away since being diagnosed w/ DLE – need a good (non > greasy?) sunscreen recommendation. I hate greasy feeling.

I use Bull Frog – hate, *hate*, HATE the way it feels going on, but it’s virtually unnoticeable when it dries. It stays on all day, which is the major benefit for me as I usually am in a sandy area and cannot re-apply safely.

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B’s Mom wrote: > This has probably been discussed before, but I can’t find the thread. > First time going away since being diagnosed w/ DLE – need a good (non > greasy?) sunscreen recommendation. I hate greasy feeling. > TIA, > Kim

I LOVE Banana Boat brand sunscreen. Not smelly, no pimles on the face and NO greasy feel. -Sharon — Visit my webpage: http://www.qc.edu/~sperlof1/ ~Joy~ If the sight of the blue skies fills you with joy, if the simple things of nature have a messsage that you understand, rejoice, because your soul is alive. -Eleonora Duse

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"B’s Mom" wrote in message

>This has probably been discussed before, but I can’t find the thread. >First time going away since being diagnosed w/ DLE – need a >good (non

greasy?) sunscreen recommendation. >I hate greasy feeling.

I use ‘Baby Skin’ and it goes on like a light moisture cream.. no oil and no grease and not heavy or sticky…. it is x50 sun protection factor too. Hugs from Shelagh http://continue.to/lupus

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On a daily basis (not for heavy sun) I use Oil of Olay Complete moisturizer with 15spf sunscreen-unscented. For sun exposure I use Bananboat Ultra 30 unscented. The smell of sunscreen bothers me a lot… makes me nauseated and gives me headaches.. so that is why I use these products Mair "B’s Mom" wrote in message

news:Qw1fa.179394$F1.7728@sccrnsc04… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This has probably been discussed before, but I can’t find the thread. > First time going away since being diagnosed w/ DLE – need a good (non > greasy?) sunscreen recommendation. I hate greasy feeling. > TIA, > Kim

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Sunblock. I use Banana boat sport 50. I also use the Banan Boat Maximum sunblock UVA UVB 50 the new one that absorbs quickly. Another that is great? Very expensive but works well? Total Block 65. You get it at www.dermadoc.com and order from them, they are cheaper than the manufactures site. But it will discolor clothes I also buy Rit Sun guard. I do my clothes in it esp in the summer time with long sleeve tops and shells. Drop packet in wash and it is good for a whole load. Lasts up to 20 reg washings. It does help believe me. At least for me it has. And I have lots of skin rashes due to sun before using all the above. Get it at www.rit.com or www.dermadoc.com under sun protection NO I do not slide out of bed at night either LOL And all the sunblocks NO smell Thats me for now janers

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Oh right, on a daily basis I use (hypoallergenic) marcelle x30 spf moisture cream applying every a.m. but for summertime or outdoors walking/driving etc. on clear days especially, I use the ‘baby skin’ on top of my regular… you can get a spray application as well which covers nicely… odor free… made for baby skin which is so sensitive. — Hugs from Shelagh http://continue.to/lupus "Mary T. Rawle" wrote in message – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On a daily basis (not for heavy sun) I use Oil of Olay Complete moisturizer > with 15spf sunscreen-unscented.

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I use Neurogena Health Defense daily moisturizer with SPF 30 each morning. Gretchen

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Bull Frog? And where may I ask did you get or find this? Never heard of it. Must be for the beautiful people of California that soak the sun and run around in their bikinis? Oh well, if Only. tee hee Really now, where do you get this product just me janers living in ohio and it is going to be cold this weekend with maybe SNOW???

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Try Wal-Mart. "Janers" wrote in message

news:kSKga.1903$lf3.313597@cletus.bright.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bull Frog? > And where may I ask did you get or find this? Never heard of it. Must be > for the beautiful people of California that soak the sun and run around in > their bikinis? > Oh well, if Only. tee hee > Really now, where do you get this product > just me > janers > living in ohio and it is going to be cold this weekend with maybe SNOW???

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sunscreen

admin — Sat, 22 Mar 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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Not I

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Does anyone have trouble wearing sunscreen? I’ve tried various kinds. They all make me feel ill–I get nauseus (sp?) and sick feeling. Tina

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Tina, As crazy as this may sound I burn much worse when I wear sunscreen not to mention that simple application irritates my skin. I am dark complexioned and rarely if ever burned before lupus but boy howdy do I need to be careful now. Also some of my meds make me more sensitive to the sun. Judith Jim & Tina Carmichael wrote in message <36F2A0D4.1D8FE…@funtv.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Does anyone have trouble wearing sunscreen? I’ve tried various kinds. >They all make me feel ill–I get nauseus (sp?) and sick feeling. Tina

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Jim & Tina Carmichael wrote: > Does anyone have trouble wearing sunscreen? I’ve tried various kinds. > They all make me feel ill–I get nauseus (sp?) and sick feeling. Tina

I have very sensitive skin, but have found Sol Bar to work for me. I use the SFP 30 because it is a gel. I can also use Shade gel. The drugest has to order both of these as they are not usually sold over the counter. My dermatologist recommended these. Mary

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In article <36F2A0D4.1D8FE…@funtv.com>, Jim & Tina Carmichael writes >Does anyone have trouble wearing sunscreen? I’ve tried various kinds. >They all make me feel ill–I get nauseus (sp?) and sick feeling. Tina

There’s a new kind worth lookiing for and trying – a sunblock which contains titanium dioxide instead of the usual chemicals. Yes, thats the stuff in brilliant white paint. We tried it once in Austria and it was amazingly effective – 2 hours after we put it on, a terrible thunderstorm arrived and washed away the car park and four cars! — Andy For Austria & its philately, Lupus, & much else visit http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk

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On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:15:10 -0600, "mwog" wrote: >Tina, >As crazy as this may sound I burn much worse when I wear sunscreen not to >mention that simple application irritates my skin. I am dark complexioned >and rarely if ever burned before lupus but boy howdy do I need to be careful >now. Also some of my meds make me more sensitive to the sun. Judith

Actually this doesn’t sound crazy to me. You are probably having an allergic response that is accelerated by the sunlight. I can wear Banana Boat Baby SPF 50 which is a sunblock that is for sensitive skin. It still will cause some irritation if I wear it several days in a row. Unfortunatey I didn’t wear it today and I got sick while working in the yard much faster than usual (cause I also wear a hat/drape/long-sleeve shirt, etc). take care, kc cat – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Jim & Tina Carmichael wrote in message <36F2A0D4.1D8FE…@funtv.com>… >>Does anyone have trouble wearing sunscreen? I’ve tried various kinds. >>They all make me feel ill–I get nauseus (sp?) and sick feeling. Tina

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Andy wrote: > . . .a sunblock which contains titanium dioxide instead of the usual > chemicals. Yes, thats > the stuff in brilliant white paint. > We tried it once in Austria and it was amazingly effective – 2 hours > after we put it on, a terrible thunderstorm arrived and washed away the > car park and four cars!

Boy, that’s some POWERFUL sunscreen. . . LOL. . .seriously, I have heard of it, and not tried it yet. Thanks for the info, Tina

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>Andy wrote: >> . . .a sunblock which contains titanium dioxide instead of the usual >> chemicals. Yes, thats >> the stuff in brilliant white paint.

I’ve got very sensitive skin which has reacted to other sunscreens in the past (even before I got sick), but at the moment I’m having good results with Hawaiian Tropic ‘Bioshield’ 30 SPF facial sunblock. It contains titanium dioxide, without producing that lovely reflective white mask effect that many of the TiO2 sunscreens produce. The packet says it is suitable for daily use. Suzanne * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – Suzanne Doig – remove obvious from reply-to address http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4038/index.html

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Sensitivity to the sun?

admin — Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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Hi, I’ve been keeping a headache diary over the past few weeks per the advice from others in this group since my migraines have gotten worse. One trend that I am noticing is that often I start to get a migraine if I’ve been out in the sun for a few minutes. Its not a long time, but I guess it does not take long to trigger a headache? I’ve also been noticing over the last month or so that sometimes lights seem much brighter than usual, however it usually seems to be sunlight that is serving as a possible trigger for the headaches. Does anyone have any advice or answers as to why all of the sudden I would become super sensitive to the sun or other forms of bright light and is this normal? Thanks, David

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I have always thought that very bright light was a trigger for migraine episodes for some people. Perhaps you are one. You now know to avoid bright sun w/out a hat and sunglasses. — Sharon Boring Amabile Wife, mother, perpetual student and frequent volunteer

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ve been keeping a headache diary over the past few weeks per the advice from others in this group since my migraines have gotten worse. One trend that I am noticing is that often I start to get a migraine if I’ve been out in the sun for a few minutes. Its not a long time, but I guess it does not take long to trigger a headache? I’ve also been noticing over the last month or so that sometimes lights seem much brighter than usual, however it usually seems to be sunlight that is serving as a possible trigger for the headaches. Does anyone have any advice or answers as to why all of the sudden I would become super sensitive to the sun or other forms of bright light and is this normal? Thanks, David

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Two thoughts on this one, from a red head with fair skin who is very sensitive to sunlight . . 1 live in the UK – sunshine is a rare, warming and welcome occurrence! 2 when the Sun does come out, I find dark glasses – whether slab tint or photochromic – make little or no difference, wheras Polarised lenses make a huge difference because they actually modify the light patterns. They are now available as prescription lenses – whether as single focus, or bi/tri-focals or Varifocal lenses in the UK – my Optician["optometrist" to those who live on the other side of The Pond] imports mine for me – from the USA. Expensive but very effective when the sun does shine in UK or when we go to Southern Europe . . tho incidentally I find the problems greatest when the Sun is low in the sky, as it is at these northerly latitudes, and presumably the Sun’s rays enter the eye at a much more direct/unfortunate angle. Malcolm

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bright lights/bright sunlight are a trigger for me too David. My specs have photochromatic lenses for this very reason!

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Bright lights/bright sunlight are a trigger for me too David. My specs have photochromatic lenses for this very reason! In the summer, the general brightness of the days means I am permanently wearing shades – so I look *kewl* too During the winter, when the sun is low in the sky, I need to wear shades as, for example, when driving, the sun flickering through the trees of the roadside verges is a really strong trigger. Cheers, helen s Flush out that intestinal parasite and/or the waste product before sending a reply! Any speeliong mistake$ aR the resiult of my cats sitting on the keyboaRRRDdd

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You most definitely have been bitten by a vampire. This is a natural part of the transformation ***J/k**** I also get migraines from bright sunlight, especially when flickering (from tree branches moving, etc). Sunglasses are a definite must for me. My skin is also very easily sunburned (like 15 minutes and I’m cooked) Misty Devine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ve been keeping a headache diary over the past few weeks per the advice from others in this group since my migraines have gotten worse. One trend that I am noticing is that often I start to get a migraine if I’ve been out in the sun for a few minutes. Its not a long time, but I guess it does not take long to trigger a headache? I’ve also been noticing over the last month or so that sometimes lights seem much brighter than usual, however it usually seems to be sunlight that is serving as a possible trigger for the headaches. Does anyone have any advice or answers as to why all of the sudden I would become super sensitive to the sun or other forms of bright light and is this normal? Thanks, David

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1 live in the UK – sunshine is a rare, warming and welcome occurrence!

So do I Past few days have been *glorious* here in Norfolk 2 when the Sun does come out, I find dark glasses – whether slab tint or photochromic – make little or no difference,

The photochromatic are fine for me – they just seem to lower the light intensity enough so as not to trigger a migraine for me. Cheers, helen s Flush out that intestinal parasite and/or the waste product before sending a reply! Any speeliong mistake$ aR the resiult of my cats sitting on the keyboaRRRDdd

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Killed himself because he was sensitive to the sun?? Don’t have to worry about me. I have survived worse than a sunburn and never suicided.

Fair skin and polycythemia .. and porphyria .. coincidentally … CNS involvement .. finally .. light/sun sensitivity – People with very fair skin tend to be sensitive to the sun’s rays and burn much faster. People with light colored eyes may find that bright lights are more painful because more light is able to enter their eyes, more so than someone with dark brown eyes. There are several medical disorders that can cause sun sensitivity. Porphyria, photophobia, lupus, and xeroderma pigmentosum, to name a few. Medications and herbal supplements can also cause light/sun sensitivity. Among these are St. John’s Wort, Dong Quai, antihistamines, anti-inflammatories, antibiotics, birth-control pills, medications for high blood pressure, and nearly all psychiatric medications. http://www.lionsgrove.com/vamptraits.html migraine headaches – First of all, be sure that what you’re experiencing is in fact a migraine. It isn’t just a ‘really bad’ headache. Sufferers will usually experience visual disturbances such as auras or blind spots followed by an intense pain on one side of the head, usually behind the eye. Sufferers tend to become sensitive to light and nauseated during this time. They can also experience some numbness on the side of the body opposite of the pain. Ask me how I know . No one knows the exact cause of migraine headaches, but researchers have deduced that environmental influences can trigger a migraine. Triggers are varied. For me, migraines usually came after a highly stressful period. For my sister, it’s strong smells. Migraine headaches are also believed to be hereditary, which is somewhat evident by my own immediate family. Of the five members, only my father has not experienced them. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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I do recall. But if you are going to make a claim, support it. We can judge for ourselves whether the article is unreliable or not. Medline .. let me suggest .. ‘red hair and iron’ ..

www.medline.com? It is a "health care supply catolog" NOT an information source. try again.

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Man, what do you have against iron?? Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim?? What a cheap way to dye hair!!

No .. Any studies / medical articles place by me are very unreliable .. don’t you recall .. ? Medline .. let me suggest .. ‘red hair and iron’ .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You most definitely have been bitten by a vampire. This is a natural part of the transformation ***J/k**** I also get migraines from bright sunlight, especially when flickering (from tree branches moving, etc). Sunglasses are a definite must for me. My skin is also very easily sunburned (like 15 minutes and I’m cooked) A friend of mine was just the same .. had a real problem with the sunlight .. could not tan .. really fair skinned. I spoke to him several times about the possibility of there being an iron involvement. Never moved on it .. Killed himself .. Who loves ya. Tom —

Killed himself because he was sensitive to the sun?? Don’t have to worry about me. I have survived worse than a sunburn and never suicided. I was born with fair skin – iron didn’t do it, I swear! Poor iron, always being picked on… Bring me some liver, I feel deficient!! Misty

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Man, what do you have against iron?? Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim?? What a cheap way to dye hair!! No .. Any studies / medical articles place by me are very unreliable .. don’t you recall .. ? I do recall. But if you are going to make a claim, support it. We can judge for ourselves whether the article is unreliable or not. Medline .. let me suggest .. ‘red hair and iron’ .. www.medline.com? It is a "health care supply catolog" NOT an information source. try again.

Biochim Biophys Acta 2002 Jun 6;1571(2):157-66 Metal ions as potential regulatory factors in the biosynthesis of red hair pigments: a new benzothiazole intermediate in the iron or copper assisted oxidation of 5-S-cysteinyldopa. Di Donato P, Napolitano A, Prota G Department of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry, University of Naples Federico II, Complesso Universitario Monte S. Angelo, Via Cinthia 4, I-80126, Naples, Italy [Medline record in process] In the presence of iron or copper ions, the course of the oxidation in air of 5-S-cysteinyldopa (1), the main biosynthetic precursor of pheomelanins and trichochromes, was markedly changed affording two main products. One of these was identified as the oxobenzothiazine 8, previously obtained under nonphysiologically relevant conditions, while the other was characterized as the novel hydroxybenzothiazole 9. Besides 8 and 9, carboxylated and noncarboxylated benzothiazine products were obtained by persulfate oxidation of 1 in the presence of iron or copper ions. The ratio of formation yields of carboxylated/noncarboxylated benzothiazines, determined after reduction o f the mixture, was lower than that of the control reaction run in the absence of metal ions, and much lower than that of the oxidation carried out in the presence of zinc ions, in agreement with a recent report. Notably, 8 and 9 were formed in variable yields under different oxidation conditions including tyrosinase/O(2), peroxidase/hydrogen peroxide, and the hydrogen peroxide/or (9E,11Z,13S)-13-hydroperoxyoctadeca-9,11-dienoic acid/Fe(III) systems. Mechanistic routes to 8 and 9 were proposed based on the results of experiments involving in situ generation of labile benzothiazine intermediates. Overall, these results allow to formulate an improved biosynthetic scheme in which metal ions act as critical regulatory factors determining pheomelanin vs. trichochromes formation. PMID: 12049796, UI: 22045070 Who loves y.a. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two thoughts on this one, from a red head with fair skin who is very sensitive to sunlight . . Iron overload .. *genetic* iron overload has been traced back to the Irish , Scottish and Viking heritage. All coincidentally . red haired. A small town in Texas had their water accidently contaminated with iron .. and the inhabitants of the town became redhaired. Animals studies have confirmed the FACT ..iron turns hair red . Uveitis .. sensitivity to sunlight has been shown to involve a lack of antioxidants .. and iron destroys antioxidants. The native population here in Canada has an incidence of 9 x 1 in diabetes. Iron has now been so closely involved in diabetes that researchers have now recommended iron reduction in at least 40% of all type 2 diabetics in the world. You will be hardpressed to find even ONE .. eyeglass wearing native in Canada who DOES NOT wear the tinted glasses .. evidencing the prevalence of sensitivity to sunlight. Just thought I’d mention it .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

Man, what do you have against iron?? Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim?? What a cheap way to dye hair!! Misty

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A friend of mine was just the same .. had a real problem with the sunlight .. could not tan .. really fair skinned. I spoke to him several times about the possibility of there being an iron involvement. Never moved on it .. Killed himself .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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Two thoughts on this one, from a red head with fair skin who is very sensitive to sunlight . .

Iron overload .. *genetic* iron overload has been traced back to the Irish , Scottish and Viking heritage. All coincidentally . red haired. A small town in Texas had their water accidently contaminated with iron .. and the inhabitants of the town became redhaired. Animals studies have confirmed the FACT ..iron turns hair red . Uveitis .. sensitivity to sunlight has been shown to involve a lack of antioxidants .. and iron destroys antioxidants. The native population here in Canada has an incidence of 9 x 1 in diabetes. Iron has now been so closely involved in diabetes that researchers have now recommended iron reduction in at least 40% of all type 2 diabetics in the world. You will be hardpressed to find even ONE .. eyeglass wearing native in Canada who DOES NOT wear the tinted glasses .. evidencing the prevalence of sensitivity to sunlight. Just thought I’d mention it .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Biochim Biophys Acta 2002 Jun 6;1571(2):157-66 Metal ions as potential regulatory factors in the biosynthesis of red hair pigments: a new benzothiazole intermediate in the iron or copper assisted oxidation of 5-S-cysteinyldopa. Di Donato P, Napolitano A, Prota G Department of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry, University of Naples Federico II, Complesso Universitario Monte S. Angelo, Via Cinthia 4, I-80126, Naples, Italy [Medline record in process] In the presence of iron or copper ions, the course of the oxidation in air of 5-S-cysteinyldopa (1), the main biosynthetic precursor of pheomelanins and trichochromes, was markedly changed affording two main products. One of these was identified as the oxobenzothiazine 8, previously obtained under nonphysiologically relevant conditions, while the other was characterized as the novel hydroxybenzothiazole 9. Besides 8 and 9, carboxylated and noncarboxylated benzothiazine products were obtained by persulfate oxidation of 1 in the presence of iron or copper ions. The ratio of formation yields of carboxylated/noncarboxylated benzothiazines, determined after reduction o f the mixture, was lower than that of the control reaction run in the absence of metal ions, and much lower than that of the oxidation carried out in the presence of zinc ions, in agreement with a recent report. Notably, 8 and 9 were formed in variable yields under different oxidation conditions including tyrosinase/O(2), peroxidase/hydrogen peroxide, and the hydrogen peroxide/or (9E,11Z,13S)-13-hydroperoxyoctadeca-9,11-dienoic acid/Fe(III) systems. Mechanistic routes to 8 and 9 were proposed based on the results of experiments involving in situ generation of labile benzothiazine intermediates. Overall, these results allow to formulate an improved biosynthetic scheme in which metal ions act as critical regulatory factors determining pheomelanin vs. trichochromes formation. PMID: 12049796, UI: 22045070 Who loves y.a. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore!

http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING

http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking That means nothing. You know that no one can decifer that.

YOU can’t decipher .. it .. Not my fault .. You got an article directly from the largest medical database in the world .. That’s what you asked for .. that’s what you got .. Youhave not posted the study in its entirety, and have given us no link to source it from.

I am not about to begin posting URLs for medline. If you cannot find medline .. you are SOL .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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"Ironjustice", trolls . . . who IS this guy? I’ve had red hair since I was born. I come from a family with red hair on both sides of the blood line and they have almost all lived into their 80s and 90s. I am a Celt. None of us is raving. Does this guy want to tell me anything I don’t know about my lineage? And when it comes to Iron . . . I grew up being called "Rusty"! As for the rest of the stuff . . . is all this because Ironjustice or Tom or whoever s/he is comes from Canada, which I seem to remember from some elementary Geology, is particulalrly rich in all manner of minerals? Give us all a break . . and being English, I’ll add "please". —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two thoughts on this one, from a red head with fair skin who is very sensitive to sunlight . . Iron overload .. *genetic* iron overload has been traced back to the Irish , Scottish and Viking heritage. All coincidentally . red haired.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Ironjustice", trolls . . . who IS this guy? I’ve had red hair since I was born. I come from a family with red hair on both sides of the blood line and they have almost all lived into their 80s and 90s. I am a Celt. None of us is raving. Does this guy want to tell me anything I don’t know about my lineage? And when it comes to Iron . . . I grew up being called "Rusty"! As for the rest of the stuff . . . is all this because Ironjustice or Tom or whoever s/he is comes from Canada, which I seem to remember from some elementary Geology, is particulalrly rich in all manner of minerals? Give us all a break . . and being English, I’ll add "please".

I met a nice british woman (and her husband who was also nice) in Belize. She was so sun sensitive she wore gloves. I told her it all seemed "so British", her donning her hat and gloves after lunch. rorschandt

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Killed himself because he was sensitive to the sun?? Don’t have to worry about me. I have survived worse than a sunburn and never suicided.

How did the above comment bring on that tirade of "info"?? Wasn’t asking thanks. You still didn’t answer my question. Why would someone kill themselves because of sun sensitivity?? Fair skin and polycythemia .. and porphyria .. coincidentally … CNS involvement .. finally .. light/sun sensitivity – People with very fair skin tend to be sensitive to the sun’s rays and burn much faster. People with light colored eyes may find that bright lights are more painful because more light is able to enter their eyes, more so than someone with dark brown eyes. There are several medical disorders that can cause sun sensitivity. Porphyria, photophobia, lupus, and xeroderma pigmentosum, to name a few. Medications and herbal supplements can also cause light/sun sensitivity. Among these are St. John’s Wort, Dong Quai, antihistamines, anti-inflammatories, antibiotics, birth-control pills, medications for high blood pressure, and nearly all psychiatric medications.

My sun sensitivity is really not that big of a problem for me. I just put on sunscreen and sunglasses. I have been sensitive my whole life. Just born with pale skin. It isn’t any meds or anything I am on. If anything my skin has gotten tougher over the years. http://www.lionsgrove.com/vamptraits.html

Strange source…. not exactly medical info or anything…. A riot to read though *lmao* migraine headaches – First of all, be sure that what you’re experiencing is in fact a migraine. It isn’t just a ‘really bad’ headache.

Please don’t lecture me on what is or isn’t a migraine headache. You don’t know me or my history. I know what a migraine is. I have been diagnosed over and over by several doctors. No one doubts that I suffer from migraines. Sufferers will usually experience visual disturbances such as auras or blind spots followed by an intense pain on one side of the head, usually behind the eye. Sufferers tend to become sensitive to light and nauseated during this time.

DUH…. who are you lecturing here?? I think everybody in here has the basics down… They can also experience some numbness on the side of the body opposite of the pain.

Not always opposite side. My face goes numb on the same side as the pain. Ask me how I know .

Probably from reading this NG. No one knows the exact cause of migraine headaches, but researchers have deduced that environmental influences can trigger a migraine. Triggers are varied. For me, migraines usually came after a highly stressful period. For my sister, it’s strong smells. Migraine headaches are also believed to be hereditary, which is somewhat evident by my own immediate family. Of the five members, only my father has not experienced them. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

Honestly, I find it insulting that you lecture me like a child who is faking it or something. Especially when I didn’t ask any questions to provoke it. And you don’t even know anything about me. No wonder everyone in here is pissed at you. You are very condescending.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Man, what do you have against iron?? Poor iron – I love you – no anemia for me…. Surely you can provide some sources for the iron turns hair red claim?? What a cheap way to dye hair!! No .. Any studies / medical articles place by me are very unreliable .. don’t you recall .. ? I do recall. But if you are going to make a claim, support it. We can judge for ourselves whether the article is unreliable or not. Medline .. let me suggest .. ‘red hair and iron’ .. www.medline.com? It is a "health care supply catolog" NOT an information source. try again. Biochim Biophys Acta 2002 Jun 6;1571(2):157-66 Metal ions as potential regulatory factors in the biosynthesis of red hair pigments: a new benzothiazole intermediate in the iron or copper assisted oxidation of 5-S-cysteinyldopa. Di Donato P, Napolitano A, Prota G Department of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry, University of Naples Federico II, Complesso Universitario Monte S. Angelo, Via Cinthia 4, I-80126, Naples, Italy [Medline record in process] In the presence of iron or copper ions, the course of the oxidation in air of 5-S-cysteinyldopa (1), the main biosynthetic precursor of pheomelanins and trichochromes, was markedly changed affording two main products. One of these was identified as the oxobenzothiazine 8, previously obtained under nonphysiologically relevant conditions, while the other was characterized as the novel hydroxybenzothiazole 9. Besides 8 and 9, carboxylated and noncarboxylated benzothiazine products were obtained by persulfate oxidation of 1 in the presence of iron or copper ions. The ratio of formation yields of carboxylated/noncarboxylated benzothiazines, determined after reduction o f the mixture, was lower than that of the control reaction run in the absence of metal ions, and much lower than that of the oxidation carried out in the presence of zinc ions, in agreement with a recent report. Notably, 8 and 9 were formed in variable yields under different oxidation conditions including tyrosinase/O(2), peroxidase/hydrogen peroxide, and the hydrogen peroxide/or (9E,11Z,13S)-13-hydroperoxyoctadeca-9,11-dienoic acid/Fe(III) systems. Mechanistic routes to 8 and 9 were proposed based on the results of experiments involving in situ generation of labile benzothiazine intermediates. Overall, these results allow to formulate an improved biosynthetic scheme in which metal ions act as critical regulatory factors determining pheomelanin vs. trichochromes formation. PMID: 12049796, UI: 22045070 Who loves y.a. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

That means nothing. You know that no one can decifer that. You have not posted the study in its entirety, and have given us no link to source it from. The actual text of this "study" says nothing about hair. You know that not all of us in here are doctors or med students and think you can dupe us by using some jargonny big worded technical report. You think we will give up trying to translate it and just accept it as truth. I bet you can’t even translate all that gobbledy gook. You don’t impress me. Anyone can cut and paste – it takes real intelligence and knowledge to explain and summarize something. It takes even more intelligence and knowledge, and a real large supply of _wisdom_ to put it in simple terms that everyone can understand. You have demonstrated none of these traits in this post.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Ironjustice", trolls . . . who IS this guy? I’ve had red hair since I was born. I come from a family with red hair on both sides of the blood line and they have almost all lived into their 80s and 90s. I am a Celt. None of us is raving. Does this guy want to tell me anything I don’t know about my lineage? And when it comes to Iron . . . I grew up being called "Rusty"! As for the rest of the stuff . . . is all this because Ironjustice or Tom or whoever s/he is comes from Canada, which I seem to remember from some elementary Geology, is particulalrly rich in all manner of minerals? Give us all a break . . and being English, I’ll add "please".

Hey now…. I’m from Canada. Don’t see me "trolling". This guy is an idiot. Please don’t judge Canadians based on him. Misty Devine *proud Canadian*

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That means nothing. You know that no one can decifer that. YOU can’t decipher .. it ..

Can you decipher it? I repeat my comment (that you conveniently cut out) Anyone can cut and paste – it takes real intelligence and knowledge to explain and summarize something. It takes even more intelligence and knowledge, and a real large supply of _wisdom_ to put it in simple terms that everyone can understand. You have demonstrated none of these traits in this post. Not my fault .. You got an article directly from the largest medical database in the world

I got PART of an article .. That’s what you asked for .. that’s what you got ..

You did not supply a source. Prove it. Youhave not posted the study in its entirety, and have given us no link to source it from. I am not about to begin posting URLs for medline. If you cannot find medline .. you are SOL .. Who loves ya. Tom

Idiot.

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What exactly do photochromatic lenses do? Are they better than polarized lenses for example? David

photochromatic simply go dark in bright light & light/clear in dim light and varying shades inbetwen as the light changes. For me, they just reduce glare/brightness enough to avoid the light acting as a trigger. If I haven’t got my contacts in, I need specs to drive/watch telly/cinema etc., as I am shortsighted. Having the photochromatic lenses means I don’t have to keep switching from sunglasses to ordinary specs as I go from inside to out and back to inside again. See http://www.thursoeyecare.co.uk/Light%20Sensitive%20Lenses.htm for a pic of the effect of them working. Cheers, helen s Flush out that intestinal parasite and/or the waste product before sending a reply! Any speeliong mistake$ aR the resiult of my cats sitting on the keyboaRRRDdd

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What exactly do photochromatic lenses do? Are they better than polarized lenses for example? David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bright lights/bright sunlight are a trigger for me too David. My specs have photochromatic lenses for this very reason! In the summer, the general brightness of the days means I am permanently wearing shades – so I look *kewl* too During the winter, when the sun is low in the sky, I need to wear shades as, for example, when driving, the sun flickering through the trees of the roadside verges is a really strong trigger. Cheers, helen s Flush out that intestinal parasite and/or the waste product before sending a reply! Any speeliong mistake$ aR the resiult of my cats sitting on the keyboaRRRDdd

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Ah yes. Sun, firecracker displays, strobe lights, fluorescent lights, spotlights, any bright light in my face, searchlights, and movies. –Julianne

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http://www.lionsgrove.com/vamptraits.html Strange source…. not exactly medical info or anything…. A riot to read though *lmao*

Isn’t it wonderful! Tom just got done writing that he posts ‘medical articles’ and here he is, sending us to a site where the owner says: "I spent quite a bit of time talking to real vamps and… " "Skip past the part where I find out about real vampires, psivamps, and my "personal god." That’s not really what he is, and he does gently correct me when I refer to him that way, but that’s the easiest way to describe him to other people. He’s a friend and a guide. And I call him Mr. B." Now THAT’s a medical reference site alright! You gotta love the guy! Paul

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lupus with R.A.

admin — Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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Just curious how many of you are dealing with both diseases. If so, what are you taking….i am on remicade and methx. injections. having quite a few side effects starting with constant shingles…eye and lip…also some rashes. how are the rest of you doing? hope you are doing better and that some of you have reached remission. I am still on prednesone….3 years now…. ugh Take care and let me know if you can help in anyway…any information is greatly appreciated. Thanks Laura

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Hey Lady, you found us back. Sorry I can’t help you out but I think there are some who can. Glad to see you post. Going for more tests this week for me again. hugs janers

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RA & SLE… That’s be me!!! Diagnosed with SLE back in ‘89 and then Dx’d with RA in ‘91… MTX, Enbrel, Salsalate, Prednisone, Plaquinel, HBP meds, beta-blockers, plus lots of meds to help with side-effects, etc… — Kendall F. Stratton III Fort Fairfield, Maine USA k…@maine.rr.com http://home.maine.rr.com/k3 "A pancia piena si ragiona meglio" "Laura" wrote in message

news:34218c28.0302241337.1b15ee63@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just curious how many of you are dealing with both diseases. If so, > what are you taking….i am on remicade and methx. injections. having > quite a few side effects starting with constant shingles…eye and > lip…also some rashes. how are the rest of you doing? hope you are > doing better and that some of you have reached remission. I am still > on prednesone….3 years now…. ugh > Take care and let me know if you can help in anyway…any information > is greatly appreciated. > Thanks > Laura

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Laura wrote: > Just curious how many of you are dealing with both diseases. If so, > what are you taking….i am on remicade and methx. injections. having > quite a few side effects starting with constant shingles…eye and > lip…also some rashes. how are the rest of you doing? hope you are > doing better and that some of you have reached remission. I am still > on prednesone….3 years now…. ugh > Take care and let me know if you can help in anyway…any information > is greatly appreciated. > Thanks > Laura

Welcome Laura, If you find Shelagh’s post, put yourself on her map. (if you wish) Any questions, or anything at all, feel free to post away. We’ll help if we can. Hugs J

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BJ and Bruce missed your post. Glad you got your tests scheduled janers. Hugs J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Janers wrote: > . Going for more tests this week for me again.

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"Laura" wrote in message > Just curious how many of you are dealing with both diseases. If so, > what are you taking….i am on remicade and methx. injections. having > quite a few side effects starting with constant shingles…eye and > lip…also some rashes. how are the rest of you doing? hope you are > doing better and that some of you have reached remission. I am still > on prednesone….3 years now…. ugh > Take care and let me know if you can help in anyway…any information > is greatly appreciated.

Hi Laura, (I love your name, it is my first daughter’s name: Laura Mae, and I still love the sound of it though she died after living only 5 days.) I don’t have RA and SLE but I do have Lupus with sjogren’s syndrome and raynaud’s phenomena secondary to it. It is a miserable trio along with pmv, copd and renal complications as well as skin issues… so I too am on pred and it has been several years of daily dosage along with chloroquin. I am doing alot better now at age 50 than I ever did when younger! I think that age mellows the illness, as well as the person LOL! I hope you get some answers and get to feeling better though! Hugs from Shelagh http://continue.to/lupus

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"Janers" wrote in message >Going for more tests this week for me again.

Ok, and what tests are you going to have done this week Janers? I always seem to be one step behind with you… hmm or is it maybe that I am just one step behind everything, always ? Anyway.. I sure do hope you are feeling okay? (((janers))) Hugs from Shelagh http://continue.to/lupus

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topicals for the skin

admin — Mon, 13 Jan 2003 00:00:00 +0000

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Mary T. Rawle wrote: > My doc gives me Lotrisone, which is cortisone plus an antifungal. It wipes > out a lot of different skin things I get.

Would this be effective against athlete’s foot too? Am having a really vicious attack last few weeks, very slow to respond to toltafnate. — Regards, Hoyt McKagen Belfab CNC – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/belfab/belfab.html Best MC Repair – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/batwings/best.html Camping/Caving – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/batwings/caving.html My dog drove off in my pickup truck, but left my wife behind!!

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betamethasone and clotrimazole topical Pronunciation: bay ta METH a sone and kloe TRIM a zole Brand: Lotrisone What is clotrimazole and betamethasone topical? . Clotrimazole is an antifungal medication. Clotrimazole topical prevents fungus from growing on your skin. . Betamethasone is a topical steroid that reduces itching, swelling, and redness of the skin. . Betamethasone and clotrimazole topical is used to treat fungal skin infections such as athlete’s foot, jock itch, and ringworm. . Betamethasone and clotrimazole topical may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide. Sherry "Hoyt McKagen" wrote in message

news:3E2444C3.3741@apocalypse.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mary T. Rawle wrote: > > My doc gives me Lotrisone, which is cortisone plus an antifungal. It wipes > > out a lot of different skin things I get. > Would this be effective against athlete’s foot too? Am having a really > vicious attack last few weeks, very slow to respond to toltafnate. > — > Regards, > Hoyt McKagen > Belfab CNC – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/belfab/belfab.html > Best MC Repair – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/batwings/best.html > Camping/Caving – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/batwings/caving.html > My dog drove off in my pickup truck, but left my wife behind!!

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What readily available agents have we found to be good for reducing the redness, irritation and itching of typical lupus outbreaks? Also, I notice lots of small white or ‘dead-skin’ colored spots, which seem to be of nature of un-filled blisters (if that adequately describes them). These tend to be firmly attached but do flake sometimes. Is all that typical of lupus also? Regards, Hoyt McKagen Belfab CNC – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/belfab/belfab.html Best MC Repair – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/batwings/best.html Camping/Caving – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/batwings/caving.html My dog drove off in my pickup truck, but left my wife behind!!

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My doc gives me Lotrisone, which is cortisone plus an antifungal. It wipes out a lot of different skin things I get. "Hoyt McKagen" wrote in message

news:3E22F6A3.4906@apocalypse.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What readily available agents have we found to be good for reducing the > redness, irritation and itching of typical lupus outbreaks? > Also, I notice lots of small white or ‘dead-skin’ colored spots, which > seem to be of nature of un-filled blisters (if that adequately describes > them). These tend to be firmly attached but do flake sometimes. Is all > that typical of lupus also? > Regards, > Hoyt McKagen > Belfab CNC – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/belfab/belfab.html > Best MC Repair – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/batwings/best.html > Camping/Caving – http://www.freeyellow.com/members/batwings/caving.html > My dog drove off in my pickup truck, but left my wife behind!!