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Chakolate wrote: > Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmul…@comcast.net> wrote in > news:bgumrc$stos1$1@ID-128032.news.uni-berlin.de: >>Thought you would all like to hear the good news. > Excellent news. Thanks!
Thanks! From just a few hours ago, I can feel an improvement. sue
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Frankenmel wrote: >>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >>Date: 8/7/03 4:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time >>Frankenmel wrote: >>>>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >>>>Date: 8/7/03 4:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time >>>>Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my >>>>joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure >>>>medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down >>>>near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more >>>>side effects then most people. >>>>After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint >>>>pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an >>>>improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be >>>>fine, before my cruise on 8/23. >>>>Thought you would all like to hear the good news. >>>Hooray! So who figured it out? >>I did and then had to convince my doctor. I don’t fault him, since I >>have the most unusual reactions to meds. I think muscle and joint pain >>are only 1% or something like that. > I thought if he was going to pin a label of rheumatism on you,he should at > least have some idea what aspect of it he was talking about.
The first time I complained to him and he said it was rheumatism, he gave me an accupuncture treatment. My feeling is that he wanted to see what that would do and then take it from there. I am not an expert, but I think if it had continued, he would of had to run tests to see exactly what the problem was. If I had not seen the side effects of Avapro, we would of discussed it furtheer. Now there is no need. sue
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"FurPaw" <furpawnews…@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:3F32F629.4070108@comcast.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote: > > Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my > > joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure > > medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down > > near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more > > side effects then most people. > > After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint > > pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an > > improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be > > fine, before my cruise on 8/23. > > Thought you would all like to hear the good news. > That’s great news! > I had a joint-pain reaction to Septra (an antibiotic) once. All > of a sudden my wrists, hands, knees and feet started aching > constantly, enough to keep me awake at night. I was ready to run > to the nearest rheumatologist when it occured to me that maybe it > was a side effect of Septra. I checked the PDR in the medical > office at work the next day (this was pre-internet) and sure > enough – it was one of those rare side effects.
I once went to bed basically fine & woke up a few hours later to pee. Okay, except I had also developed an all-over body rash in those few hours. Yep, Septra. Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I understand how relieved you feel! > FurPaw > — > There’s no reason to give credence to anything spoken above 90 > decibels. > To reply, unleash the dog.
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Thanks Cathy!! I am so relieved and am now looking forward to Bermuda again. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Cathy Friedmann wrote: > Yes, that is good news! 
> Cathy > — > "Staccato signals of constant information…" > ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon > "Sue and Kevin Mullen" <kjmul…@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:bgumrc$stos1$1@ID-128032.news.uni-berlin.de… >> Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my >>joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure >>medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down >>near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more >>side effects then most people. >>After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint >>pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an >>improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be >>fine, before my cruise on 8/23. >>Thought you would all like to hear the good news. >>sue
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Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote: > Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my > joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure > medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down > near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more > side effects then most people. > After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint > pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an > improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be > fine, before my cruise on 8/23. > Thought you would all like to hear the good news.
That’s great news! I had a joint-pain reaction to Septra (an antibiotic) once. All of a sudden my wrists, hands, knees and feet started aching constantly, enough to keep me awake at night. I was ready to run to the nearest rheumatologist when it occured to me that maybe it was a side effect of Septra. I checked the PDR in the medical office at work the next day (this was pre-internet) and sure enough – it was one of those rare side effects. I understand how relieved you feel! FurPaw — There’s no reason to give credence to anything spoken above 90 decibels. To reply, unleash the dog.
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Ooooh – say hello to St. Catherine’s & Horseshoe Bay beaches for me… they were gorgeous! Mmmm… lovely sand, warm & bouyant sea green water, blue skies, a few puffy white clouds… :-) Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon "Sue and Kevin Mullen" <kjmul…@comcast.net> wrote in message news:bgus0u$t1qts$1@ID-128032.news.uni-berlin.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks Cathy!! I am so relieved and am now looking forward to Bermuda > again. > sue > Cathy Friedmann wrote: > > Yes, that is good news! > > Cathy > > — > > "Staccato signals of constant information…" > > ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon > > "Sue and Kevin Mullen" <kjmul…@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:bgumrc$stos1$1@ID-128032.news.uni-berlin.de… > >> Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my > >>joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure > >>medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down > >>near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more > >>side effects then most people. > >>After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint > >>pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an > >>improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be > >>fine, before my cruise on 8/23. > >>Thought you would all like to hear the good news. > >>sue
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Yes, that is good news! Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon "Sue and Kevin Mullen" <kjmul…@comcast.net> wrote in message news:bgumrc$stos1$1@ID-128032.news.uni-berlin.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my > joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure > medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down > near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more > side effects then most people. > After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint > pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an > improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be > fine, before my cruise on 8/23. > Thought you would all like to hear the good news. > sue
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >Date: 8/7/03 4:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time > Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my >joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure >medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down >near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more >side effects then most people. >After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint >pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an >improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be >fine, before my cruise on 8/23. >Thought you would all like to hear the good news.
Hooray! So who figured it out? Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Frankenmel wrote: >>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >>Date: 8/7/03 4:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time >> Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my >>joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure >>medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down >>near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more >>side effects then most people. >>After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint >>pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an >>improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be >>fine, before my cruise on 8/23. >>Thought you would all like to hear the good news. > Hooray! So who figured it out?
I did and then had to convince my doctor. I don’t fault him, since I have the most unusual reactions to meds. I think muscle and joint pain are only 1% or something like that. sue
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Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmul…@comcast.net> wrote in news:bgumrc$stos1$1@ID-128032.news.uni-berlin.de: > Thought you would all like to hear the good news.
Excellent news. Thanks! Chakolate
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >Date: 8/7/03 4:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Frankenmel wrote: >>>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >>>Date: 8/7/03 4:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time >>> Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my >>>joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure >>>medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down >>>near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more >>>side effects then most people. >>>After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint >>>pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an >>>improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be >>>fine, before my cruise on 8/23. >>>Thought you would all like to hear the good news. >> Hooray! So who figured it out? >I did and then had to convince my doctor. I don’t fault him, since I >have the most unusual reactions to meds. I think muscle and joint pain >are only 1% or something like that.
I thought if he was going to pin a label of rheumatism on you,he should at least have some idea what aspect of it he was talking about. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.
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Just wanted to let you all know, I do NOT have rheumatism!! All of my joint pain turns out to be a reaction to Avapro, a blood pressure medicine. Joint and muscle pain are listed as a side effect, way down near the bottom of the list. Since I have CFS, I tend to get many more side effects then most people. After seeing my doctor on tuesday, I stopped the Avapro and my joint pain is on its way out. Today is the first day, that I really see an improvement and feel it will continue. At last I know that I will be fine, before my cruise on 8/23. Thought you would all like to hear the good news. sue
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>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >Date: 8/1/03 8:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Kevin found this website: http://www.reumaliitto.fi/rheuma.htm >Here is a quote from the site: >"Rheumatism is a general name for musculoskeletal kiseases or their >symptoms.
I would ask the doctor to be more specific.It’s like he told you that you have a head. Well,sure you do,but then what? Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Frankenmel wrote: >>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >>Date: 8/1/03 8:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time >>Kevin found this website: http://www.reumaliitto.fi/rheuma.htm >>Here is a quote from the site: >>"Rheumatism is a general name for musculoskeletal kiseases or their >>symptoms. > I would ask the doctor to be more specific.It’s like he told you that you have > a head. Well,sure you do,but then what?
I fully intent to get more information from him on my next visit, which is this coming week. He may need some tests, before he can be more specific. He also knows we are going on a cruise soon and may be waiting untill we get back to look further. Whatever, we will be talking to him this week. sue
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I lost the thread where Sue Mullen and I were discussing rheumatism. Anyway,here is the definition I found,which makes it sound as though rheumatism is an umbrella term and not a separate syndrome unto itself: "rheumatism General term for acute and chronic conditions characterized by inflammation (arthritis, tendonitis and bursitis), soreness and stiffness of muscles, and pain in joints and associated structures. " Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.
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I just posted to it, so you’ll probably find it again. Rheumatoid arthritis is also usually symmetrical – if your left knee hurts, so does your right knee, etc. Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon "Frankenmel" <franken…@aol.comDONT> wrote in message
news:20030801161313.18105.00000761@mb-m17.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I lost the thread where Sue Mullen and I were discussing rheumatism. > Anyway,here is the definition I found,which makes it sound as though rheumatism > is an umbrella term and not a separate syndrome unto itself: > "rheumatism > General term for acute and chronic conditions characterized by inflammation > (arthritis, tendonitis and bursitis), soreness and stiffness of muscles, and > pain in joints and associated structures. " > Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a > religious epiphany.
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Btw – it was in "Still here lurking" thread, I think. Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Frankenmel" <franken…@aol.comDONT> wrote in message > news:20030801161313.18105.00000761@mb-m17.aol.com… > > I lost the thread where Sue Mullen and I were discussing rheumatism.
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>From: "Cathy Friedmann" c…@adelphia.net >Date: 8/1/03 1:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Rheumatoid arthritis is also usually symmetrical – if your left knee hurts, >so does your right knee, etc.
Thanks for this. DH’s problem in his hand is mainly the right hand,index finger knuckle. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.
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Frankenmel wrote: > I lost the thread where Sue Mullen and I were discussing rheumatism. > Anyway,here is the definition I found,which makes it sound as though rheumatism > is an umbrella term and not a separate syndrome unto itself: > "rheumatism > General term for acute and chronic conditions characterized by inflammation > (arthritis, tendonitis and bursitis), soreness and stiffness of muscles, and > pain in joints and associated structures. "
Just said the same thing in my last post, rheumatism is a general term. According to my doctor and what I have read, it has to do with pain in the joints. Also stiffness when you first get up, which I have first thing in the morning, as well as anyother time I stand, sit or lay for more then a few minutes. He has said that this is only the joints, not the muscles. I get a lot of aches in my muscles because of my CFS, mainly when I do to much, but that I know how to deal with, I have been doing that for years. sue
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Cathy Friedmann wrote: > I just posted to it, so you’ll probably find it again. > Rheumatoid arthritis is also usually symmetrical – if your left knee hurts, > so does your right knee, etc.
Interesting, I have problems on both sides of my body, but the right side is the worst. sue
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>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >Date: 8/1/03 2:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time >He has said that this is only the joints, not the muscles.
AFAIK,arthritis *is* the joints,not the muscles. I really wonder about his diagnosis. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.
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Frankenmel wrote: >>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >>Date: 8/1/03 2:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time >>He has said that this is only the joints, not the muscles. > AFAIK,arthritis *is* the joints,not the muscles. > I really wonder about his diagnosis.
He said rheumatism is only in the joints, not the muscles. I guess there are different things that can be wrong with the joints. I am only guessing here, but the reason for his diagnosis might be because of which of my joints hurt,many not just one, conbined with the overal stiffness upon arising. sue
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>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >Date: 8/1/03 2:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time >He said rheumatism is only in the joints, not the muscles.
Is he saying arthritis is in the muscles??? > I am only >guessing here, but the reason for his diagnosis might be because of >which of my joints hurt,many not just one, conbined with the overal >stiffness upon arising.
Sure sounds like arthritis to me. And to DH also. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.
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Frankenmel wrote: >>From: Sue and Kevin Mullen kjmul…@comcast.net >>Date: 8/1/03 2:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time >>He said rheumatism is only in the joints, not the muscles. > Is he saying arthritis is in the muscles???
Not at all, just that rheumatism is only in the joints. Never said anything about arthritis being in the muscles, just that he said I didn’t have arthritis. > Sure sounds like arthritis to me. And to DH also.
Well, my doctor knows my whole history. I will find out more as time goes on. sue
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Kevin found this website: http://www.reumaliitto.fi/rheuma.htm Here is a quote from the site: "Rheumatism is a general name for musculoskeletal kiseases or their symptoms. Rheumatic diseases include inflammatory rheumatism, arthritis, a variety of back disorders, gout, oteoporosis and soft tissue rheumatism." ————————————————————————— ——- Another site gives this definition of Rheumatism and Arthritis: "Rheumatism: A general term for acute and chronic conditions characterized by inflammation, soreness and stiffness of muscles, and pain in joints and associated structures. It includes arthritis (infectious, rheumatoid, gouty); arthritis due to rheumatic fever or trauma/ degenerative joint disease: neurogenic arthropathy; hydroarthrosis; myositis; bursitis; fibromyositis; and many other conditions. Arthritis: Inflammation of a joint, usually accompanied by pain, swelling and frequently, changes in structure. Other forms of arthritis include ankylosing spondylitis (AS), and the systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE)." Taken from: http://www.egregore.com/diseases/rheumatism.html ————————————————————————— ——– sue
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