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In article <29v9lv4bau1adma19eo70rp9asoo9qv…@4ax.com>, kcat <kca…@newsguy.com> wrote [ >probably due to an allergy to one of the other metals. "gold" is not >just gold but contains other metals that are more reactive. Now, I'm >not a metallurgist so don't ask me to say *what* is in it that could >be causing a problem.
I think the usual alloyers are silver and copper. [ >I'll do some digging - I *believe* nickel is one of the least reactive >metals but won't swear to it.
Don't - it has been implicated in "Euro-rash", [1] where people say the new European currency causes rashes. Mind you, they may be political rashes… [1] NOT Euro-trash – that is Something Else. — Andy [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/lupus for more!
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:54:02 GMT, "Sherry" <hurst…@NoSpam.invalid> wrote: >Kat, >I can’t wear most of my jewelry good expensive stuff or anything else. I do >break out from even the gold be it a ring, necklace, or earrings. with the >earrings my ear lobe will start to do its thing before I even have the 2nd >earring in. >I know that I’m weird…my skin is super sensitive to lots of things….but >why my jewelry? Who knows.
probably due to an allergy to one of the other metals. "gold" is not just gold but contains other metals that are more reactive. Now, I’m not a metallurgist so don’t ask me to say *what* is in it that could be causing a problem. My sister has a similar problem (she also has SLE) but reacts largely to cheap silver I think. She also turns all of her nice silver solid black after a short time. Something (acids?) in her skin cause tarnishing quickly. I believe copper would pose a similar problem for her. Most of us have heard of the expression "hypoallergenic posts" when dealing with earrings. I think there’s less protective skin in pierced ears making them more susceptible to allergic reactions to metals. But hypoallergenic just means a reduced allergic response or less likelihood of an allergic response. I wear earrings only on occasion because no matter what I do to protect myself (cortisone cream and antibiotic ointment) they get sore after a couple of hours. End result – your response is probably not directly related to autoimmune disease but to allergy. However, having an autoimmune disease tends to exacerbate our allergies. IMO – I would try a gold ring (not you of course but the OP’s fiance) and feel that after a few days if there is no reaction around the finger than a wedding band should be no big deal. I’ll do some digging – I *believe* nickel is one of the least reactive metals but won’t swear to it.
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I take it this way, as far as what lupus people must avoid: whatever agent that they find flares them. I consider lupies to generally have "multiple chemical sensitivity," in that almost invariably there is going to be a chemical agent that causes you a flare. I used to have to wash my clothes at a laundromat. One day I was exposed to something at the laundromat, and I came home and fell on the couch, could not move for four days… after that I had an exacerbation of my illness that lasted three years! I think everybody has to make their own list. Mine includes laundry soap, chlorine bleach, "simple green," WD-40, "Polo" cologne, concord grapes, red wine,Top Ramen, and hot dogs (except hebrew national). Sun, car exhaust, dieting, and emotional stress are flare factors as well. Hope this Helps Mair "NW" <ninb…@MJAUyahoo.se> wrote in message
news:p_15b.26593$dP1.68664@newsc.telia.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Blewyn" <ble…@btinternet.com> skrev i meddelandet > news:bj04db$6cg$1@titan.btinternet.com… > > Thanks for the advice posted in response to my earlier question ! I read > the > > links provided, and now have another question : > > Gold. Is this a trade name for a drug that sufferers must avoid, or is > gold > > itself a danger to Discoid Lupus sufferers ? My girlfriend and I have > just > > bought a pair of wedding rings….. > Don’t know much about what lupus people should avoid, since I have other > kinds of arthritis. However, I do know that gold sodium injections and some > other pill called Ridaura were pretty popular treatments for rheumatoid > arthritis before the newer treatments. Don’t know how much they still are > being used. Anyway, both Ridaura and the Myochrisine can affect the kidneys > among other things. > Looking at rxlist.com, Myochrisine is contraindicated in systemic lupus. > Doesn’t stand why, though. > http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/myochrysine_od.htm > Nina
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 20:08:29 +0000 (UTC), "Blewyn" <ble…@btinternet.com> wrote: >Thanks to all for the advice, it’s REALLY appreciated ! On the subject of >chemicals and skin, I have a somewhat radical suggestion…….just shower >with water, nothing else.
yeah – sadly not enough. got long hair that would never get clean that way. I do have a very "clean" oatmeal soap (it’s oatmeal, honey, vegetable and a touch of shea butter) that has made a *huge* difference in my reaction to shampoos and such. Medication and poor absorption of nutrients has made my hair (one of the few things I get vain about) coarse and losing pigment. So i’ve been trying to find a decent conditioner that won’t hurt my skin or at least hurt it less. Live in a very humid climate. OTOH – I understand that when we strip the oils from the hair and skin the skin reacts to replace them – kind of end up in an endless do loop eh? >apply soap if I’ve got oil, grease or grime on me, which is uncommon seeing >as I’m a penpusher.
:-) I’m a fountain pen pusher. constantly got ink stains on my hands. constantly trying to get ink stains off of my hands. >someone with your kind of problem – may well give your skin the protective >coating it needs.
Thanks for the input. There’s a part of me that is logical and understands the skin response to detergents. there’s another part of me that says AACK! :)
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Blewyn wrote:
<snip> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks to all for the advice, it’s REALLY appreciated ! On the subject of > chemicals and skin, I have a somewhat radical suggestion…….just shower > with water, nothing else. I have been doing this for about 4 weeks now > (paying VERY close attention to my odour..) on the advice of my hairdresser, > and my skin looks better than it has for ages – NO spots ! My hair looks > great – but does start to look greasy if it isn’t showered at least once per > day (my climate 15-25
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