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Hi KC and All just catching up on reading and a good thread here … a lupie re-decorating issue! so I just got to jump in here 
been thinking about flooring stuff here too … need something low maintenance low allergy … kind to joints but hadn’t thought of the dog situation with the flooring (except the cheap nasty carpet has to go) … so been reading everyone’s pros and cons with great interest! I found young kids and ceramic tiles a bit dicey at times but the kids are older now and I am a fan of those big rugs (with non slip underlays) to throw over bare floors, but ceramics are great, bucket of hot water and metho spirits gives it a great cheap non slippery shine … but I also get the *dropsies* dropping things on tiles is my problem. has anyone tried the newer floating floor or stuck on wood laminate etc flooring at all? they seem to use it a lot commercially/in shops here now. the current lino in the kitchen/dining area is kinda cool it is in a floorboard pattern and the tradesmen that have been round have all stooped to touch it, as it looks so *real* <grin> best of both worlds. choices, choices, no money and no energy to even window shop but it is a nice thing to dream about for the future have fun KC and keep us posted on how the tile job goes! Sal
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Coatings on wood floors? Not in this old house. Natural worn wood. Not bad really, doesn’t shine but I don’t care. I think it had wax on it at one time. I’m not hand polishing!! Never had a problem with our Jake’s claws on the floor. Several homes around here have the same sort of non coated floors and they have dogs and no damage. Bev "KC" <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote in message
news:en2phucimmodt2sf820ntrtsfb8m6oe5mt@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:55:23 -0500, KC <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote: > >Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? > >We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the > >kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. > >just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down > >will have bad fumes or anything? > >TIA, > >kc > thanks for the all the input. I do very much appreciate it. > I should say that > a) I don’t cook much. and this is just in kitchens and baths so it’s > not like I’ll be spending much time on it. > b) I’ve had linoleum for many years and I absolutely abhor it. sorry > – it’s just my opinion. And the very good linoleum is more expensive > than tiling now days. I have tile in the front hall and it has stood > up to much abuse far better than the linoleum and has never bothered > me (probably spend as much time on it as I do in the rest of the house > so… > c) while I’ll file away the technical considerations for later – there > is no way on this lovely green Earth that I would try to do this > myself. hubby wanted to do that – but then i’ve been sick for a > couple of weeks. so we rethunk it. Tile guy is due in 15 mins or > so to get to work. > the biggest concern is Houston’s gumbo soil. tends to shift of course > and therefore we will keep extra tiles of this lot # for potential > repair needs. That I think we can handle. (likewise the grout). > I live in comfy shoes even around the house. Even carpeting is not > enough to protect me from foot pain – so this isn’t a big stretch for > me. > we thought we would take a while to think about it – but then, as > hubby says, we "set the hook" on a good deal and are taking advantage > of it. > the company has been in business 10 years – now to just hope that they > can live up to their reputation and do a good job. if they do – then > what carpeting we have we may replace in a couple of years with their > help. > blessed be, > kcat > p.s. problem with wood flooring and it’s ilk – not dog friendly. > friend of mine just moved into a place with all wood flooring – > they’ve wanted that for years because of their allergies and she > thought she’d love it. But her dogs (one large, clumsy galoot, one > small, excitable terrier (terror)) have already done some damage to > the surface (not the wood itself but the coating).
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On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:55:23 -0500, KC <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote: >Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? >We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the >kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. >just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down >will have bad fumes or anything? >TIA, >kc
thanks for the all the input. I do very much appreciate it. I should say that a) I don’t cook much. and this is just in kitchens and baths so it’s not like I’ll be spending much time on it. b) I’ve had linoleum for many years and I absolutely abhor it. sorry – it’s just my opinion. And the very good linoleum is more expensive than tiling now days. I have tile in the front hall and it has stood up to much abuse far better than the linoleum and has never bothered me (probably spend as much time on it as I do in the rest of the house so… c) while I’ll file away the technical considerations for later – there is no way on this lovely green Earth that I would try to do this myself. hubby wanted to do that – but then i’ve been sick for a couple of weeks. so we rethunk it. Tile guy is due in 15 mins or so to get to work. the biggest concern is Houston’s gumbo soil. tends to shift of course and therefore we will keep extra tiles of this lot # for potential repair needs. That I think we can handle. (likewise the grout). I live in comfy shoes even around the house. Even carpeting is not enough to protect me from foot pain – so this isn’t a big stretch for me. we thought we would take a while to think about it – but then, as hubby says, we "set the hook" on a good deal and are taking advantage of it. the company has been in business 10 years – now to just hope that they can live up to their reputation and do a good job. if they do – then what carpeting we have we may replace in a couple of years with their help. blessed be, kcat p.s. problem with wood flooring and it’s ilk – not dog friendly. friend of mine just moved into a place with all wood flooring – they’ve wanted that for years because of their allergies and she thought she’d love it. But her dogs (one large, clumsy galoot, one small, excitable terrier (terror)) have already done some damage to the surface (not the wood itself but the coating).
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"Beverley" <pottings…@sybercom.net> wrote in message
news:uhnq0o3kka5ef7@corp.supernews.com… > Ah, yes, you know all about that don’t you. > Thinking about tile for the baths but have no idea about the kitchen. I > might find good hardwood or pine under there but I doubt it will be usable. > One area of the kitchen was a porch one other area was added in the 1960’s. > My horrible, horrible kitchen!! With strange little twists and turns. Once > upon a time it was a keeping room with a porch. Now it is a Hodge Podge.
Not "a hodge podge", it is "American Organic Architecture"!
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Ah, yes, you know all about that don’t you. Thinking about tile for the baths but have no idea about the kitchen. I might find good hardwood or pine under there but I doubt it will be usable. One area of the kitchen was a porch one other area was added in the 1960’s. My horrible, horrible kitchen!! With strange little twists and turns. Once upon a time it was a keeping room with a porch. Now it is a Hodge Podge. Bev "ruth tay" <ruth…@mcn.org> wrote in message
news:ruthtay-2706021905310001@ha-1o-men-p3-m08.mcn.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <uhn9cud5aue…@corp.supernews.com>, "Beverley" > <pottings…@sybercom.net> wrote: > Pergo is leg friendly but if you have a grandchild that turns on the > lavatory tap and leaves and floods the house water gets under the soft > padding and ruins it and it is h— to take out and replace…ruth > > Ask Paul what is friendly especially for baths and kitchens. I’d like to do > > something one day to my floors in this old house. Thinking Pergo but so > > expensive! > > Bev (P&E) > > "ruth tay" <ruth…@mcn.org> wrote in message > > news:ruthtay-2706021534200001@ha-2e-men-p1-m01.mcn.org… > > > In article <5d3khuo6iv3gu3fkdhc0lvhohf1dqb3…@4ax.com>, KC > > > <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote: > > > HI K Cat > > > I would agree with Leslie that tile is very hard on the legs and leads to > > > varicose veins. There are new linoleums that have a padded underlay that > > helps > > > arthritic legs. My hubby is an architect and is designing a new kitchen > > for > > > the local Episcopal church and he has been instructed to find the most > > knee > > > friendly flooring possible. One of his clients had about 4000 sq feet of > > > slate laid in her house and has had some serious leg problems develop in > > > the two and a half years they have lived there. She is older than you > > [40] > > > It is something to consider … cheers ruth > > > > Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? > > > > We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the > > > > kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. > > > > just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down > > > > will have bad fumes or anything? > > > > TIA, > > > > kc
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In article <uhn9cud5aue…@corp.supernews.com>, "Beverley" <pottings…@sybercom.net> wrote:
Pergo is leg friendly but if you have a grandchild that turns on the lavatory tap and leaves and floods the house water gets under the soft padding and ruins it and it is h— to take out and replace…ruth – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ask Paul what is friendly especially for baths and kitchens. I’d like to do > something one day to my floors in this old house. Thinking Pergo but so > expensive! > Bev (P&E) > "ruth tay" <ruth…@mcn.org> wrote in message > news:ruthtay-2706021534200001@ha-2e-men-p1-m01.mcn.org… > > In article <5d3khuo6iv3gu3fkdhc0lvhohf1dqb3…@4ax.com>, KC > > <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote: > > HI K Cat > > I would agree with Leslie that tile is very hard on the legs and leads to > > varicose veins. There are new linoleums that have a padded underlay that > helps > > arthritic legs. My hubby is an architect and is designing a new kitchen > for > > the local Episcopal church and he has been instructed to find the most > knee > > friendly flooring possible. One of his clients had about 4000 sq feet of > > slate laid in her house and has had some serious leg problems develop in > > the two and a half years they have lived there. She is older than you > [40] > > It is something to consider … cheers ruth > > > Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? > > > We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the > > > kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. > > > just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down > > > will have bad fumes or anything? > > > TIA, > > > kc
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Ask Paul what is friendly especially for baths and kitchens. I’d like to do something one day to my floors in this old house. Thinking Pergo but so expensive! Bev (P&E) "ruth tay" <ruth…@mcn.org> wrote in message
news:ruthtay-2706021534200001@ha-2e-men-p1-m01.mcn.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <5d3khuo6iv3gu3fkdhc0lvhohf1dqb3…@4ax.com>, KC > <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote: > HI K Cat > I would agree with Leslie that tile is very hard on the legs and leads to > varicose veins. There are new linoleums that have a padded underlay that helps > arthritic legs. My hubby is an architect and is designing a new kitchen for > the local Episcopal church and he has been instructed to find the most knee > friendly flooring possible. One of his clients had about 4000 sq feet of > slate laid in her house and has had some serious leg problems develop in > the two and a half years they have lived there. She is older than you [40] > It is something to consider … cheers ruth > > Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? > > We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the > > kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. > > just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down > > will have bad fumes or anything? > > TIA, > > kc
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Mastick has very low odor, grout as well. Only thing I can say is that if you have problems with your joinst you may want to rethink the ceramic tile, it kills my feet, knees and back. We will just replace our linoleum until the LOTTO comes in and we can afford hardwood. Leslie "KC" <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote in message
news:5d3khuo6iv3gu3fkdhc0lvhohf1dqb341o@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? > We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the > kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. > just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down > will have bad fumes or anything? > TIA, > kc
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In article <5d3khuo6iv3gu3fkdhc0lvhohf1dqb3…@4ax.com>, KC <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote >Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? >We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the >kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. >just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down >will have bad fumes or anything?
1. What’s under the lino? It needs to be solid, not flexible – if it bends the tiles will crack. If it’s concrete, you may need a screeding layer, of finely mixed concrete or a polymer, to get it flat, smooth, and free of cracks. 2. I’d use epoxy grout between the tiles – it’s waterproof. Ditto to fix them down, as a second defence against when (not ‘if’) you spill water. 3. Almost any tile-fixing stuff will emit some fumes – plan on a brief holiday. Epoxys tend to emit acetone as they cure, if I remember correctly. 4. If the tile is patterned, be ready to decide which wall you want it (roughly) parallel with – very few rooms have geometrically right-angled corners or straight walls. 5. Get several extra tiles: if one does crack, it’s annoying to find they don’t make new ones any more. Anyway, it’s good insurance: if you have one you’ll never need it; if you don’t you will. 6. What do you plan for the floor-wall and floor-fittings joints? 7. Do you have any services in the floor, such as heating pipes? 8. The tiles will be thicker than lino – will any doors catch? — Andy [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society] For Austrian philately <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/austamps> For Lupus <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/lupus> For my other interests <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk>
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I’ve done several tile jobs and have not had a problem with fumes. Although coating wooden floors or anything with polyurethane has made me nauseated, quite high and gave me a fierce headache even with windows open and fans blowing. Epoxy type stuff is going to have more fumes. But be careful because you cannot always smell fumes – they can be odorless! The other thing to consider is that when ever you begin a project that removes something else you are going to kick all sorts of stuff into the air. That "dust" is laden with all sorts of nasty things like mold and fungus and who knows what else. It’s also not going to go away with a few hours of open windows. I think I have more problems with the dust thrown into the air then I do with the actual building materials. I’ve never had a problem with tiling. The epoxy stuff does need to be used in an open area so open those windows and keep them open! I have had problems with the glue that is used for linoleum (vinyl) flooring. Not from the fumes but the glue eats the skin off my fingers or any part of my skin that comes in contact with it. Listen to Andy he’s right on track! Bev "KC" <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote in message
news:5d3khuo6iv3gu3fkdhc0lvhohf1dqb341o@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? > We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the > kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. > just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down > will have bad fumes or anything? > TIA, > kc
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YOUR tiling? YOU go slow and take care.. and really Should you be doing that? hugs janers
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In article <5d3khuo6iv3gu3fkdhc0lvhohf1dqb3…@4ax.com>, KC <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote:
HI K Cat I would agree with Leslie that tile is very hard on the legs and leads to varicose veins. There are new linoleums that have a padded underlay that helps arthritic legs. My hubby is an architect and is designing a new kitchen for the local Episcopal church and he has been instructed to find the most knee friendly flooring possible. One of his clients had about 4000 sq feet of slate laid in her house and has had some serious leg problems develop in the two and a half years they have lived there. She is older than you [40] It is something to consider … cheers ruth – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? > We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the > kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. > just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down > will have bad fumes or anything? > TIA, > kc
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Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down will have bad fumes or anything? TIA, kc
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Hi KC, I don’t know "safe" materials per se but keep the house well aired out and pets /kids away. (read the directions, curing might take longer in humid weather) and whatever you do, don’t mix brands/types of adhesives etc. If you’re "closed up" (air-conditioning), you might want to do it on a dry "open window" day? Also don’t make any of same mistakes made here. (heating up the old adhesives ..in a poorly vented area) http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&as_scoring=d&hl=en&ie=IS… Maybe you saw those posts on the arthritis newsgroup? J- hoping the lady’s son recovered fully – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -KC wrote: > Anything I should know about materials used to tile floors? > We’re not ready yet but are picking out a nice ceramic tile for the > kitchen and baths. the linoleum is old and ugly as sin. > just wondering if any of the materials they use to put that stuff down > will have bad fumes or anything? > TIA, > kc
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