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On 02 Dec 2001 22:25:14 GMT, brokenotp…@cs.comdirtysox (Tina) wrote: >Hi Tina: >aware of a product developed originally by ConAgra and DuPont over twenty years
this product has been available for 20 years but we’re still all sick and new people are being diagnosed daily… doesn’t bode well for this product. >not, the key ingredient is egg powder from eggs laid by hens that have been >inocculated with weakened human pathogens.
believe it? Yes. Believe that means anything of value? No. >PS: Even those who have had egg allergies are helped by the product. The >antigens, antibodies and co-factors that it is rich in help the body overcome >its allergic reaction to eggs.
BIG RED FLAG TO LUPIES ET. AL. Adding more antigens and antibodies to our systems which are already pumping out both in the form of autoantigens (normal cell constituents that our immune system doesn’t think are normal) and autoantibodies – well that just sounds dangerous to me. I’m sorry, I’ve got enough antibodies of my own – I don’t want more from some chicken… or was it the egg? which came first? can I digress or what? co-factor: an element or principle, as a coenzyme, whith which another must unite in order to function. often coagulation factors. [paraphrased from Dorlands Med. Dictionary]. Again, potential stimulus to our immune response. *********************************** KCat – I am not a medical professional. The contents of this post are based soley on my experiences and opinions http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/mypage.htm http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/aslfaq20.htm ("`-”-/").___..–”"`-._ (`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.’`) (_Y_.)’ ._ ) `._ `. “-..-” _..`–’_..-_/ /–’_.’ ,’ (()),-” (()),’ (((.-’
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In article <v5dn0u88t5no95384fnalmnoj8n72fl…@4ax.com>, KCat <kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote [snip cluck, quack etc] >can I digress or what?
you sure can, sis 
— Andy [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society] For Austrian philately <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/austamps> For Lupus <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/lupus> For my other interests <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk>
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:05:22 +0000, Andy <a…@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In article <v5dn0u88t5no95384fnalmnoj8n72fl…@4ax.com>, KCat ><kcdoc…@ghg.net> wrote >[snip cluck, quack etc] >>can I digress or what? >you sure can, sis
PRobably because my brother always upstages me and makes more sense with 4 words than I do with 40! 
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->How kind of him to offer to share with you this wonderful breakthrough! >And to pick your name from this newsgroup, to be the beneficiary of his >independent distribution system. >[] >>the key ingredient is egg powder from eggs laid by hens that have been >>inocculated with weakened human pathogens. >[...] >>PS: Even those who have had egg allergies are helped by the product. The >>antigens, antibodies and co-factors that it is rich in help the body >overcome >>its >>allergic reaction to eggs. >"have had egg allergies" – so egg allergy goes away? >He mentions "co-factors" – sounds more like co-bblers. >Does your mailreader have a delete button? >– >Andy [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society] >For Austrian philately <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/austamps> >For Lupus <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/lupus> >For my other interests <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk>
ROTFLMAO thanks Andy, needed the laugh this am!!.. Oh & I did delete it, wonder if he is still lurking & reading our posts..he went to alot of trouble to spam me LOL Hugs, Tina (oh and you must remove my dirtysox to reply to me byE- mail)
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In article <20011202172514.17499.00000…@mb-fx.news.cs.com>, Tina <brokenotp…@cs.comdirtysox> wrote >anyone use this? Im leary of taking anything as Im on 12 prescriptions (no >vitamens) and cant believe these cur-all things as a fix to years of suffering, >if true Dr.s would be amazed & use it to wouldnt they?
How kind of him to offer to share with you this wonderful breakthrough! And to pick your name from this newsgroup, to be the beneficiary of his independent distribution system. [] >the key ingredient is egg powder from eggs laid by hens that have been >inocculated with weakened human pathogens. [...] >PS: Even those who have had egg allergies are helped by the product. The >antigens, antibodies and co-factors that it is rich in help the body overcome >its >allergic reaction to eggs.
"have had egg allergies" – so egg allergy goes away? He mentions "co-factors" – sounds more like co-bblers. Does your mailreader have a delete button? — Andy [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society] For Austrian philately <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/austamps> For Lupus <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/lupus> For my other interests <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk>
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Tina, this sounds like a good way to make your wallet lighter……. My Rheumie is open-minded about some natural treatments. But the majority of them, are just ways to take your money. Even those people who believe in their product, and believe they have been helped. I always ask for written information, so I can run it by my Rheumie. If you are at all interested in their product, perhaps you could do the same…..before shelling out any $$$$. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is 
barbtoo
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi Tina, >You’ve been spammed ! >I ran a Google search on his e-mail addy >http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:jkgerstmann%40pobox.com&hl=e… art=0&sa=N >If you scan the newsgroups he posts to, you’ll see what his *real* interest >is. >Some e-mail clients (like Netscape or Outlook Express) can filter out e-mails >(by >sender or e-mail address) and send them right to the trashbin. >Some can even delete such e-mails right from the isp server. >Have a look at your e-mail client to see if those options exist. >Whatever you do, don’t reply. It will just make it worse. >JMO >J >Tina wrote: >> anyone use this? Im leary of taking anything as Im on 12 prescriptions (no >> vitamens) and cant believe these cur-all things as a fix to years of >suffering, >> if true Dr.s would be amazed & use it to wouldnt they? >> Subj: lupus posting >> Date: 12/2/01 1:45:37 PM Pacific Standard Time >> From: jkgerstm…@pobox.com >> To: brokenotp…@cs.com
Thanks, I did delete it with no reply. maybe if I get another I will forward him/her to abuse for spamming LOL. Thanks everyone, just had to ask to be sure. Hugs, Tina (oh and you must remove my dirtysox to reply to me byE- mail)
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Hi Tina, You’ve been spammed ! I ran a Google search on his e-mail addy http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:jkgerstmann%40pobox.com&hl=e… If you scan the newsgroups he posts to, you’ll see what his *real* interest is. Some e-mail clients (like Netscape or Outlook Express) can filter out e-mails (by sender or e-mail address) and send them right to the trashbin. Some can even delete such e-mails right from the isp server. Have a look at your e-mail client to see if those options exist. Whatever you do, don’t reply. It will just make it worse. JMO J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tina wrote: > anyone use this? Im leary of taking anything as Im on 12 prescriptions (no > vitamens) and cant believe these cur-all things as a fix to years of suffering, > if true Dr.s would be amazed & use it to wouldnt they? > Subj: lupus posting > Date: 12/2/01 1:45:37 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: jkgerstm…@pobox.com > To: brokenotp…@cs.com
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>Hi Tina, >It sounds like a crock to me. My family doctor is open to natural remedies, >but more in terms of suppliments along with conventional medicine. I don’t >think there is a magical cure; just magical ways to make big money >disappear. Do be careful. There are things that can actually make lupus >worse. >Regards, >BJ
Thanks BJ I know I have reactions to multi vitamans, and things are limited with my meds such as no grapefruit products at all, etc.. I have played guinie-pig way too much in past & hate changes now & new things. I wont be trying this, but was curious as I didnt reccognize the person from here. Hugs, Tina (oh and you must remove my dirtysox to reply to me byE- mail)
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Hi Tina, It sounds like a crock to me. My family doctor is open to natural remedies, but more in terms of suppliments along with conventional medicine. I don’t think there is a magical cure; just magical ways to make big money disappear. Do be careful. There are things that can actually make lupus worse. Regards, BJ "Tina" <brokenotp…@cs.comdirtysox> wrote in message
news:20011202172514.17499.00000502@mb-fx.news.cs.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> anyone use this? Im leary of taking anything as Im on 12 prescriptions (no > vitamens) and cant believe these cur-all things as a fix to years of suffering, > if true Dr.s would be amazed & use it to wouldnt they? > Subj: lupus posting > Date: 12/2/01 1:45:37 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: jkgerstm…@pobox.com > To: brokenotp…@cs.com > Hi Tina: > I just read your recent posting to the lupus newsgroup. When I read your story > of > having lupus since 1985 and did the math, I realized what a huge percentage of > your life you have been under attack. The reason I write is that I recently > became > aware of a product developed originally by ConAgra and DuPont over twenty years > and costing $50 million to research that nourishes the immune system and gives > tremendous relief to lupus sufferers and other autoimmune conditions. Believe > it or > not, the key ingredient is egg powder from eggs laid by hens that have been > inocculated with weakened human pathogens. The researchers and scientists > involved became so excited about the concept and the results, they bought out > the > patents and set up their own company to produce and market the product. My wife > and I have both begun to take Immune 26: I have noted tremendous extra energy > and my wife’s stress-induced asthmatic condition has disappeared in less than > two > weeks. I have become an independent distributor for Legacy for Life which > markets > Immune 26 and BioChoice and welcome you to visit my website at: > http://www.shalomhealth.com > Fully FDA compliant and 30-day no questions asked money back guarantee for new > users. Respectfully, John K. Gerstmann > PS: Even those who have had egg allergies are helped by the product. The > antigens, antibodies and co-factors that it is rich in help the body overcome > its > allergic reaction to eggs. > ———————– Headers ——————————– > Return-Path: <jkgerstm…@pobox.com> > Received: from rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (rly-yd02.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.2]) by > air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINYD11-1202164537; Sun, 02 Dec > 2001 16:45:37 -0500 > Received: from forward.airstreamcomm.net (forward.airstreamcomm.net > [64.33.128.12]) by rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id > MAILRELAYINYD23-1202164518; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 16:45:18 -0500 > Received: from gertsman (gra-cas1-cs-98.dial.airstreamcomm.net [64.33.182.100]) > by forward.airstreamcomm.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fB2LjF9v010087 > Hugs, Tina > (oh and you must remove my dirtysox to reply to me byE- mail)
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anyone use this? Im leary of taking anything as Im on 12 prescriptions (no vitamens) and cant believe these cur-all things as a fix to years of suffering, if true Dr.s would be amazed & use it to wouldnt they? Subj: lupus posting Date: 12/2/01 1:45:37 PM Pacific Standard Time From: jkgerstm…@pobox.com To: brokenotp…@cs.com Hi Tina: I just read your recent posting to the lupus newsgroup. When I read your story of having lupus since 1985 and did the math, I realized what a huge percentage of your life you have been under attack. The reason I write is that I recently became aware of a product developed originally by ConAgra and DuPont over twenty years and costing $50 million to research that nourishes the immune system and gives tremendous relief to lupus sufferers and other autoimmune conditions. Believe it or not, the key ingredient is egg powder from eggs laid by hens that have been inocculated with weakened human pathogens. The researchers and scientists involved became so excited about the concept and the results, they bought out the patents and set up their own company to produce and market the product. My wife and I have both begun to take Immune 26: I have noted tremendous extra energy and my wife’s stress-induced asthmatic condition has disappeared in less than two weeks. I have become an independent distributor for Legacy for Life which markets Immune 26 and BioChoice and welcome you to visit my website at: http://www.shalomhealth.com Fully FDA compliant and 30-day no questions asked money back guarantee for new users. Respectfully, John K. Gerstmann PS: Even those who have had egg allergies are helped by the product. The antigens, antibodies and co-factors that it is rich in help the body overcome its allergic reaction to eggs. ———————– Headers ——————————– Return-Path: <jkgerstm…@pobox.com> Received: from rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (rly-yd02.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.2]) by air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINYD11-1202164537; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 16:45:37 -0500 Received: from forward.airstreamcomm.net (forward.airstreamcomm.net [64.33.128.12]) by rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYD23-1202164518; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 16:45:18 -0500 Received: from gertsman (gra-cas1-cs-98.dial.airstreamcomm.net [64.33.182.100]) by forward.airstreamcomm.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fB2LjF9v010087 Hugs, Tina (oh and you must remove my dirtysox to reply to me byE- mail)
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