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Bev, That is great about your BP and your weight…Good thing you didn’t send me any of your clothes that were too tight;) You might have that bite looked at…Keep a watch on it… Hot and Humid….YUCK…. That is when I want to just stay in the pool Hugs Cindy

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Beverly, I am glad you are feeling better. But be careful of that bite. They can get nasty very fast. If infection sets in please have it looked at. What are you doing to lose weight? Gosh I wish I could say I was losing weight. From your other posts to me, you talked about your wedding in the family. Maybe I can lose after my daughter’s wedding is over. Take care, Paulette "Beverley" <beverly.brow…@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:ZopGc.13850$Xq4.4898@nwrddc02.gnilink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I think I’m doing better. The blood pressure is finally starting to fall > into almost normal range. The diastolic number (the bottom one) is still > running between 94 and 84 but mostly in the upper 80’s. So that is good. I’m > feeling better but still not great. But just how great are we supposed to > feel with lupus? LOL > Now the good news is the weight is still falling. It’s much slower but I > couldn’t keep my jeans up today to save my soul. If I stuck my hands in my > pockets the pants would slide right down. I’m hoping my cholesterol is > falling right along with the weight. > The bad news is I was working in the garden yesterday with my husband. Don’t > ask  - he never does garden work! Anyway I was trimming a boxwood and > something stung/bit me. I don’t think it was anything flying as I saw > nothing fly. I think it was a spider bite. I looked up the dangerous ones – > black widows and brown recluses and I don’t think it was one of them. Not > enough symptoms, not sick enough!!! Anyway my wrist looks like hamburger and > now has a white ucky spot where the bite occurred. Using lots of Benadryl > and cortisone cream. Of course the bite burned so much I kept the spot > covered with an ice cube. I now know why they say never to apply ice > directly to the skin. I think I have  a slight case of frost bite on top of > the bite. Can’t win for losing. Oh, does that arm ache!! > Started tearing up the kitchen floor getting ready to tile in there. Husband > also started to get my under counter lights wired. The endless saga of an > old house. > Today’s temps have been 96 degrees F (that’s 40 something C – just figure > super hot!!) with 96% humidity. UGH!!! Too hot and humid for me. > Bev

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Beverley wrote: > I think I’m doing better. The blood pressure is finally starting to fall > into almost normal range. The diastolic number (the bottom one) is still > running between 94 and 84 but mostly in the upper 80’s. So that is good. I’m > feeling better but still not great. But just how great are we supposed to > feel with lupus? LOL > Now the good news is the weight is still falling. It’s much slower but I > couldn’t keep my jeans up today to save my soul. If I stuck my hands in my > pockets the pants would slide right down. I’m hoping my cholesterol is > falling right along with the weight. > The bad news is I was working in the garden yesterday with my husband. Don’t > ask  - he never does garden work! Anyway I was trimming a boxwood and > something stung/bit me. I don’t think it was anything flying as I saw > nothing fly. I think it was a spider bite. I looked up the dangerous ones – > black widows and brown recluses and I don’t think it was one of them. Not > enough symptoms, not sick enough!!! Anyway my wrist looks like hamburger and > now has a white ucky spot where the bite occurred. Using lots of Benadryl > and cortisone cream. Of course the bite burned so much I kept the spot > covered with an ice cube. I now know why they say never to apply ice > directly to the skin. I think I have  a slight case of frost bite on top of > the bite. Can’t win for losing. Oh, does that arm ache!! > Started tearing up the kitchen floor getting ready to tile in there. Husband > also started to get my under counter lights wired. The endless saga of an > old house. > Today’s temps have been 96 degrees F (that’s 40 something C – just figure > super hot!!) with 96% humidity. UGH!!! Too hot and humid for me. > Bev

Glad to hear some things are better, Bev, How kewl is that, losing weight, good for you ! Hope you feel better from the bite and burn soon. Hugs J

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I think I’m doing better. The blood pressure is finally starting to fall into almost normal range. The diastolic number (the bottom one) is still running between 94 and 84 but mostly in the upper 80’s. So that is good. I’m feeling better but still not great. But just how great are we supposed to feel with lupus? LOL Now the good news is the weight is still falling. It’s much slower but I couldn’t keep my jeans up today to save my soul. If I stuck my hands in my pockets the pants would slide right down. I’m hoping my cholesterol is falling right along with the weight. The bad news is I was working in the garden yesterday with my husband. Don’t ask  - he never does garden work! Anyway I was trimming a boxwood and something stung/bit me. I don’t think it was anything flying as I saw nothing fly. I think it was a spider bite. I looked up the dangerous ones – black widows and brown recluses and I don’t think it was one of them. Not enough symptoms, not sick enough!!! Anyway my wrist looks like hamburger and now has a white ucky spot where the bite occurred. Using lots of Benadryl and cortisone cream. Of course the bite burned so much I kept the spot covered with an ice cube. I now know why they say never to apply ice directly to the skin. I think I have  a slight case of frost bite on top of the bite. Can’t win for losing. Oh, does that arm ache!! Started tearing up the kitchen floor getting ready to tile in there. Husband also started to get my under counter lights wired. The endless saga of an old house. Today’s temps have been 96 degrees F (that’s 40 something C – just figure super hot!!) with 96% humidity. UGH!!! Too hot and humid for me. Bev

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Hi Melody, It has been a while. How are you doing? BJ-Sk. Canada "Melody M" <lorhe…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:11286-40D65EA6-126@storefull-3215.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi everyone, > This is lupielassy.  We just got a new web so I had to get a new pic for > it.  Thinking about lupylassy, what does everyone think?  I have not > posted in so long.  I really missed reading the discussion group and > everyone.   How is everyone doing?  I hope all is well.  Melody aka > lupielassy

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Pic?? LOL I ment to say nic.  I am doing ok my neuro has me on 3,000 mg of keppra.  That stuff really messes with my cordnation and balance and speach.  I want to say something but it comes out all jumbbled.  and it makes me zombiefied.  I want off of it.  I still can’t get anyone to give me a ct scan or mri to follow up on my brain lesions.   My rhummey started me on dapsone for my rash on my arms.  My oldest daughter is complaining of alot of joint pain and run a low grade fever, I am concerned about that but her doc doesn’t think it warrents to test for lupus.  Doc said its growing pains. I had my court date for ssi still no word yet.  All in all i think it went rather well.  They brought in my medical file took three big trips from the car, I thought it was kinda funny.  My lawyer thinks I have a good case, I hope so.  I told my regualr doctor I wanted a new neuro but trying to find someone to take medical is impossiable because I guess its a speciality field.  I dred going because my neuro is rather short tempered.   Did I mention I really missed you all (((((((everyone)))))))) It is so good to be back. I don’t know anyone else close by that has lupus who can relate.  This group is just wonderful.  Everyone here cares.  I love you all.  Melody aka lupielassy

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Melody M wrote: > Pic?? LOL I ment to say nic.  I am doing ok my neuro has me on 3,000 mg > of keppra.  That stuff really messes with my cordnation and balance and > speach.  I want to say something but it comes out all jumbbled.  and it > makes me zombiefied.  I want off of it.  I still can’t get anyone to > give me a ct scan or mri to follow up on my brain lesions.   My rhummey > started me on dapsone for my rash on my arms.  My oldest daughter is > complaining of alot of joint pain and run a low grade fever, I am > concerned about that but her doc doesn’t think it warrents to test for > lupus.  Doc said its growing pains. > I had my court date for ssi still no word yet.  All in all i think it > went rather well.  They brought in my medical file took three big trips > from the car, I thought it was kinda funny.  My lawyer thinks I have a > good case, I hope so.  I told my regualr doctor I wanted a new neuro but > trying to find someone to take medical is impossiable because I guess > its a speciality field.  I dred going because my neuro is rather short > tempered. > Did I mention I really missed you all (((((((everyone)))))))) It is so > good to be back. > I don’t know anyone else close by that has lupus who can relate.  This > group is just wonderful.  Everyone here cares.  I love you all.  Melody > aka lupielassy

Hi Melody,  What a great idea to take your whole medical file. I can see their eyes roll as each box comes in. Good thing somebody helped.   Best wishes with that ! I’d do something to get the neuro’s attention, like when I went in, I’d say "hey doc, did you hear the one about, oh never mind"..(then paste a big smile on your face…or "what’s up doc" (and big smile) .  If he’s mean to you, I sure hope you can find another somehow..unless you can somehow manipulate him into getting a bed side manner <smile> Best wishes with the dapsone, hope it works for you. It’s a worry isn’t it, when our kids start having symptoms.  Hopefully the answers will come out as time goes by. Speaking of which, how long has it been since your last CT-scan or MRI ? It’s not good to have them too frequently, because exposures (over time) can also do harm.  So I was just wondering… Thanks for clarifying about the nic. If you want it for newsgroups, don’t you want it to show up as your poster name? (instead of Melody)? Just wondering, unless you’re using it for Chat or something else. Huggers for you and welcome back  ! J

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Hi everyone, This is lupielassy.  We just got a new web so I had to get a new pic for it.  Thinking about lupylassy, what does everyone think?  I have not posted in so long.  I really missed reading the discussion group and everyone.   How is everyone doing?  I hope all is well.  Melody aka lupielassy

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Melody M wrote: > Hi everyone, > This is lupielassy.  We just got a new web so I had to get a new pic for > it.  Thinking about lupylassy, what does everyone think?  I have not > posted in so long.  I really missed reading the discussion group and > everyone.   How is everyone doing?  I hope all is well.  Melody aka > lupielassy

(screen name you mean ?) or a name to go with a pic? Either one or your original "lassy" sounds good to me. :-) Good to have you back, Melody. How are you ?  Did the flu shots work out ok for you? It’s been so long since we’ve heard from you. Hugs J

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<snip> > He said, "No, you have an appt in > about 45 minutes.  You need to be there."  I told the nurse what was > going on, and she said that my neuro does that when it’s important. > It was.

Maybe mine being a week later doesn’t mean much then…just making sure?  If it was urgent they would have had me in right away. Maureen

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if it was urgent he would have been thinking brain tumour. That would be urgent. MS is highly unlikely to kill ya and if you have to wait a week or a month thats pretty standard protocol. Case in point. They found a polyp on my cervix while i was having STD testing. Sent me off to a specialist who I saw 1 month later and he said" bah, these are common don’t worry about it" Got a call 2 weeks later saying "woops..abnormal cells that are not mild but moderate" Come in for a procedure. It was removed within a week. This wasn’t cancer or anything, but pre cancerous cells and they wanted them gone so they could check the tissue more. Hopefully when I see him in Sept there is no more issues with this ’cause in my mind that is waaaaay more scary than MS Jen "Maureen" <BlueEyedMoeTRASH S…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:nPHyc.10184$lN.7814@edtnps84… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> <snip> > > He said, "No, you have an appt in > > about 45 minutes.  You need to be there."  I told the > nurse what was > > going on, and she said that my neuro does that when it’s > important. > > It was. > Maybe mine being a week later doesn’t mean much then…just > making sure?  If it was urgent they would have had me in > right away. > Maureen

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<snip> > if it was urgent he would have been thinking brain tumour. That would be > urgent. MS is highly unlikely to kill ya and if you have to wait a week or a > month thats pretty standard protocol.

Oh…no…I didn’t think it would be a brain tumour.  Maybe they are going to use contrast to make sure of what it is? My GP thinks it might be vascular, and at one point they thought I might have Lupus.  I also have Ulcerative Colitis and just lately uncontrollable high blood pressure just to confuse the issue <g> > Case in point. They found a polyp on my cervix while i was having STD > testing. Sent me off to a specialist who I saw 1 month later and he said" > bah, these are common don’t worry about it" Got a call 2 weeks later saying > "woops..abnormal cells that are not mild but moderate" Come in for a > procedure. It was removed within a week.

I also had precancerous cells found on a PAP test quite a long time ago, and had cryotherapy (or whatever it’s called), fortunately haven’t had a problem since! > Hopefully when I see him in Sept > there is no more issues with this ’cause in my mind that is waaaaay more > scary than MS

I’m the same way.  I’d rather know what’s going on than not know.  I saw my GP last week and told him what’s going on. He said they might be doing contrast – he mentioned MS again and was concerned about how I was walking.  I’ve had many symptoms over the past year and have been shuffled around from rheumy to neuro, etc., and I just want to get some treatment to help me. Maureen

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Yes, SLE / Lupus can in it’s neurological version (it comes in infinite flavours) mimic MS very closely,  interesting the sudden blood pressure rise though which wouldn’t be normally MS related,  you also mention UC which can also be autoimmune.   Sounds like you’ve a good neurologist here, really getting to grips with your problem by the handles, it would be very useful if you keep us informed what happens and how it turns out. Roarke "Maureen" <BlueEyedMoeTRASH S…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:jbJyc.11379$lN.3601@edtnps84… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> <snip> > > if it was urgent he would have been thinking brain tumour. > That would be > > urgent. MS is highly unlikely to kill ya and if you have > to wait a week or a > > month thats pretty standard protocol. > Oh…no…I didn’t think it would be a brain tumour.  Maybe > they are going to use contrast to make sure of what it is? > My GP thinks it might be vascular, and at one point they > thought I might have Lupus.  I also have Ulcerative Colitis > and just lately uncontrollable high blood pressure just to > confuse the issue <g> > > Case in point. They found a polyp on my cervix while i was > having STD > > testing. Sent me off to a specialist who I saw 1 month > later and he said" > > bah, these are common don’t worry about it" Got a call 2 > weeks later saying > > "woops..abnormal cells that are not mild but moderate" > Come in for a > > procedure. It was removed within a week. > I also had precancerous cells found on a PAP test quite a > long time ago, and had cryotherapy (or whatever it’s > called), fortunately haven’t had a problem since! > > Hopefully when I see him in Sept > > there is no more issues with this ’cause in my mind that > is waaaaay more > > scary than MS > I’m the same way.  I’d rather know what’s going on than not > know.  I saw my GP last week and told him what’s going on. > He said they might be doing contrast – he mentioned MS again > and was concerned about how I was walking.  I’ve had many > symptoms over the past year and have been shuffled around > from rheumy to neuro, etc., and I just want to get some > treatment to help me. > Maureen

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No and at the time I was really mad, In the end, I calmed myself by telling myself  since this is really an incurable disease and something that he just did not have anything to do with, it did not matter, but I agree with it could have been done better. "Jennifer" <Jnos…@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:zmhzc.753011$oR5.721255@pd7tw3no… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ugh…thats not nice…. > "abdi" <a…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1Vgzc.76473$j24.22521@twister.nyroc.rr.com… > > For the record my male doctor and I am male, told the diagnosis to me on > the > > phone and had to explain to me > > what MS meant :-( > > "Maureen" <BlueEyedMoeTRASH S…@telus.net> wrote in message > > news:bvbzc.7272$eA.7192@clgrps13… > > > "Jennifer" <Jnos…@shaw.ca> wrote in message > > > news:Ii7zc.713746$Pk3.369861@pd7tw1no… > > > > lol..gotta love when they think we are hysterical women. > > > > Case in point… my neuro gave me the diagnosis and told > > > me" its ok if you > > > > cry". I looked at him like he was crazy. After that I > > > stood up and fell down > > > > because I had a stress fracture in my ankle. He started > > > tsk tsking me and I > > > > told him that if he would have xrayed my foot first they > > > would have noticed > > > > why I couldn’t stand on it. > > > > Another of my favs…..diagnosed June 1 of 00. Have a > > > cushy summer job doing > > > > admin work at the skating club. Mom and dad took time off > > > to drive me to and > > > > from. Everyone was accomodating. Neuro states. "i think > > > you should take time > > > > off and rest". I ask him.." Are you going to pay Mr. > > > Mastercard and > > > > Mr.Visa?" He stutters a bit and I say " well unless you > > > are paying I’m not > > > > taking a break." That particular neuro thought I was made > > > of china or > > > > something. > > > > My new neuro is all for me figure skating and practically > > > cracking my head > > > > open. I literally had a purple bum from falling on it and > > > my knees were > > > > pretty bruised too. He thinks its great. Now my butt on > > > the other hand > > > > wasn’t too happy at me. Neuro is really supportive as long > > > as I take time > > > > off if I feel like I am havnig a flare up. > > > > I also like him because he ordered me to take a vacation. > > > Now if only he > > > > would pay for it….hehe > > > > Jen > > > It’s amazing how male doctors treat some women patients. > > > I’m very small in height/weight, but have always been > > > physical fit, and am very strong for my size.  I still try > > > to go for walks, etc., although I can’t go very far right > > > now, so I go short distances, and still do stretching (the > > > stretching hurts like hell), but I feel like it helps when > > > the muscles are really tight.  My neuro isn’t very big and > > > when I’m well I could probably lift more than him. > > > It’s great to hear that you skate.  It must be difficult at > > > times….isn’t dizziness a problem?  I like to skate also, > > > but wasn’t sure how stable I’d be on skates this past > > > winter.  Your doctor sounds like he’s supportive.  My GP > > > told me take it real easy, and go swimming or something like > > > that, as I normally go overboard with fitness….oh well. > > > Maureen

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For the record my male doctor and I am male, told the diagnosis to me on the phone and had to explain to me what MS meant :-( "Maureen" <BlueEyedMoeTRASH S…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:bvbzc.7272$eA.7192@clgrps13… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Jennifer" <Jnos…@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:Ii7zc.713746$Pk3.369861@pd7tw1no… > > lol..gotta love when they think we are hysterical women. > > Case in point… my neuro gave me the diagnosis and told > me" its ok if you > > cry". I looked at him like he was crazy. After that I > stood up and fell down > > because I had a stress fracture in my ankle. He started > tsk tsking me and I > > told him that if he would have xrayed my foot first they > would have noticed > > why I couldn’t stand on it. > > Another of my favs…..diagnosed June 1 of 00. Have a > cushy summer job doing > > admin work at the skating club. Mom and dad took time off > to drive me to and > > from. Everyone was accomodating. Neuro states. "i think > you should take time > > off and rest". I ask him.." Are you going to pay Mr. > Mastercard and > > Mr.Visa?" He stutters a bit and I say " well unless you > are paying I’m not > > taking a break." That particular neuro thought I was made > of china or > > something. > > My new neuro is all for me figure skating and practically > cracking my head > > open. I literally had a purple bum from falling on it and > my knees were > > pretty bruised too. He thinks its great. Now my butt on > the other hand > > wasn’t too happy at me. Neuro is really supportive as long > as I take time > > off if I feel like I am havnig a flare up. > > I also like him because he ordered me to take a vacation. > Now if only he > > would pay for it….hehe > > Jen > It’s amazing how male doctors treat some women patients. > I’m very small in height/weight, but have always been > physical fit, and am very strong for my size.  I still try > to go for walks, etc., although I can’t go very far right > now, so I go short distances, and still do stretching (the > stretching hurts like hell), but I feel like it helps when > the muscles are really tight.  My neuro isn’t very big and > when I’m well I could probably lift more than him. > It’s great to hear that you skate.  It must be difficult at > times….isn’t dizziness a problem?  I like to skate also, > but wasn’t sure how stable I’d be on skates this past > winter.  Your doctor sounds like he’s supportive.  My GP > told me take it real easy, and go swimming or something like > that, as I normally go overboard with fitness….oh well. > Maureen

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"Jennifer" <Jnos…@shaw.ca> wrote in message

news:Ii7zc.713746$Pk3.369861@pd7tw1no… > lol..gotta love when they think we are hysterical women. > Case in point… my neuro gave me the diagnosis and told me" its ok if you > cry". I looked at him like he was crazy. After that I

stood up and fell down > because I had a stress fracture in my ankle. He started tsk tsking me and I > told him that if he would have xrayed my foot first they would have noticed > why I couldn’t stand on it. > Another of my favs…..diagnosed June 1 of 00. Have a

cushy summer job doing > admin work at the skating club. Mom and dad took time off to drive me to and > from. Everyone was accomodating. Neuro states. "i think

you should take time – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> off and rest". I ask him.." Are you going to pay Mr. Mastercard and > Mr.Visa?" He stutters a bit and I say " well unless you are paying I’m not > taking a break." That particular neuro thought I was made of china or > something. > My new neuro is all for me figure skating and practically cracking my head > open. I literally had a purple bum from falling on it and my knees were > pretty bruised too. He thinks its great. Now my butt on the other hand > wasn’t too happy at me. Neuro is really supportive as long as I take time > off if I feel like I am havnig a flare up. > I also like him because he ordered me to take a vacation. Now if only he > would pay for it….hehe > Jen

It’s amazing how male doctors treat some women patients. I’m very small in height/weight, but have always been physical fit, and am very strong for my size.  I still try to go for walks, etc., although I can’t go very far right now, so I go short distances, and still do stretching (the stretching hurts like hell), but I feel like it helps when the muscles are really tight.  My neuro isn’t very big and when I’m well I could probably lift more than him. It’s great to hear that you skate.  It must be difficult at times….isn’t dizziness a problem?  I like to skate also, but wasn’t sure how stable I’d be on skates this past winter.  Your doctor sounds like he’s supportive.  My GP told me take it real easy, and go swimming or something like that, as I normally go overboard with fitness….oh well. Maureen

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nope, i dont get dizzy. I don’t have vertigo. At the beginning becasue I hadn’t skated in years I got quite dizzy, but that was because of lack of practice more than anything Jen "Maureen" <BlueEyedMoeTRASH S…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:bvbzc.7272$eA.7192@clgrps13… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Jennifer" <Jnos…@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:Ii7zc.713746$Pk3.369861@pd7tw1no… > > lol..gotta love when they think we are hysterical women. > > Case in point… my neuro gave me the diagnosis and told > me" its ok if you > > cry". I looked at him like he was crazy. After that I > stood up and fell down > > because I had a stress fracture in my ankle. He started > tsk tsking me and I > > told him that if he would have xrayed my foot first they > would have noticed > > why I couldn’t stand on it. > > Another of my favs…..diagnosed June 1 of 00. Have a > cushy summer job doing > > admin work at the skating club. Mom and dad took time off > to drive me to and > > from. Everyone was accomodating. Neuro states. "i think > you should take time > > off and rest". I ask him.." Are you going to pay Mr. > Mastercard and > > Mr.Visa?" He stutters a bit and I say " well unless you > are paying I’m not > > taking a break." That particular neuro thought I was made > of china or > > something. > > My new neuro is all for me figure skating and practically > cracking my head > > open. I literally had a purple bum from falling on it and > my knees were > > pretty bruised too. He thinks its great. Now my butt on > the other hand > > wasn’t too happy at me. Neuro is really supportive as long > as I take time > > off if I feel like I am havnig a flare up. > > I also like him because he ordered me to take a vacation. > Now if only he > > would pay for it….hehe > > Jen > It’s amazing how male doctors treat some women patients. > I’m very small in height/weight, but have always been > physical fit, and am very strong for my size.  I still try > to go for walks, etc., although I can’t go very far right > now, so I go short distances, and still do stretching (the > stretching hurts like hell), but I feel like it helps when > the muscles are really tight.  My neuro isn’t very big and > when I’m well I could probably lift more than him. > It’s great to hear that you skate.  It must be difficult at > times….isn’t dizziness a problem?  I like to skate also, > but wasn’t sure how stable I’d be on skates this past > winter.  Your doctor sounds like he’s supportive.  My GP > told me take it real easy, and go swimming or something like > that, as I normally go overboard with fitness….oh well. > Maureen

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<snip> > Sounds like you’ve a good neurologist here, really > getting to grips with your problem by the handles, it

would be very useful > if you keep us informed what happens and how it turns out. > Roarke

I had to go back to the neuro after my EMG (negative) and push a bit.  I found that the rheumy and the neuro were passing the buck.  I am quite strong for a small person <g> and was previously very active (I like outdoor activities) so when they tested for any weakness they didn’t think I had any.  Once the neuro saw me walk down the hall, and he got me to go use the stairs in the building, (he did a very brief neuro exam previously) his attitude changed.  He then got me walk heel to toe (not done previously) which was I had a lot of trouble with, he scheduled the CAT scan. So, I believe he is a good neurologist once he realized I wasn’t a hysterical female!  I will keep you informed. Maureen

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lol..gotta love when they think we are hysterical women. Case in point… my neuro gave me the diagnosis and told me" its ok if you cry". I looked at him like he was crazy. After that I stood up and fell down because I had a stress fracture in my ankle. He started tsk tsking me and I told him that if he would have xrayed my foot first they would have noticed why I couldn’t stand on it. Another of my favs…..diagnosed June 1 of 00. Have a cushy summer job doing admin work at the skating club. Mom and dad took time off to drive me to and from. Everyone was accomodating. Neuro states. "i think you should take time off and rest". I ask him.." Are you going to pay Mr. Mastercard and Mr.Visa?" He stutters a bit and I say " well unless you are paying I’m not taking a break." That particular neuro thought I was made of china or something. My new neuro is all for me figure skating and practically cracking my head open. I literally had a purple bum from falling on it and my knees were pretty bruised too. He thinks its great. Now my butt on the other hand wasn’t too happy at me. Neuro is really supportive as long as I take time off if I feel like I am havnig a flare up. I also like him because he ordered me to take a vacation. Now if only he would pay for it….hehe Jen "Maureen" <BlueEyedMoeTRASH S…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:v8%yc.1704$eA.570@clgrps13… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> <snip> > > Sounds like you’ve a good neurologist here, really > > getting to grips with your problem by the handles, it > would be very useful > > if you keep us informed what happens and how it turns out. > > Roarke > I had to go back to the neuro after my EMG (negative) and > push a bit.  I found that the rheumy and the neuro were > passing the buck.  I am quite strong for a small person <g> > and was previously very active (I like outdoor activities) > so when they tested for any weakness they didn’t think I had > any.  Once the neuro saw me walk down the hall, and he got > me to go use the stairs in the building, (he did a very > brief neuro exam previously) his attitude changed.  He then > got me walk heel to toe (not done previously) which was I > had a lot of trouble with, he scheduled the CAT scan. > So, I believe he is a good neurologist once he realized I > wasn’t a hysterical female!  I will keep you informed. > Maureen

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ugh…thats not nice…. "abdi" <a…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1Vgzc.76473$j24.22521@twister.nyroc.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> For the record my male doctor and I am male, told the diagnosis to me on the > phone and had to explain to me > what MS meant :-( > "Maureen" <BlueEyedMoeTRASH S…@telus.net> wrote in message > news:bvbzc.7272$eA.7192@clgrps13… > > "Jennifer" <Jnos…@shaw.ca> wrote in message > > news:Ii7zc.713746$Pk3.369861@pd7tw1no… > > > lol..gotta love when they think we are hysterical women. > > > Case in point… my neuro gave me the diagnosis and told > > me" its ok if you > > > cry". I looked at him like he was crazy. After that I > > stood up and fell down > > > because I had a stress fracture in my ankle. He started > > tsk tsking me and I > > > told him that if he would have xrayed my foot first they > > would have noticed > > > why I couldn’t stand on it. > > > Another of my favs…..diagnosed June 1 of 00. Have a > > cushy summer job doing > > > admin work at the skating club. Mom and dad took time off > > to drive me to and > > > from. Everyone was accomodating. Neuro states. "i think > > you should take time > > > off and rest". I ask him.." Are you going to pay Mr. > > Mastercard and > > > Mr.Visa?" He stutters a bit and I say " well unless you > > are paying I’m not > > > taking a break." That particular neuro thought I was made > > of china or > > > something. > > > My new neuro is all for me figure skating and practically > > cracking my head > > > open. I literally had a purple bum from falling on it and > > my knees were > > > pretty bruised too. He thinks its great. Now my butt on > > the other hand > > > wasn’t too happy at me. Neuro is really supportive as long > > as I take time > > > off if I feel like I am havnig a flare up. > > > I also like him because he ordered me to take a vacation. > > Now if only he > > > would pay for it….hehe > > > Jen > > It’s amazing how male doctors treat some women patients. > > I’m very small in height/weight, but have always been > > physical fit, and am very strong for my size.  I still try > > to go for walks, etc., although I can’t go very far right > > now, so I go short distances, and still do stretching (the > > stretching hurts like hell), but I feel like it helps when > > the muscles are really tight.  My neuro isn’t very big and > > when I’m well I could probably lift more than him. > > It’s great to hear that you skate.  It must be difficult at > > times….isn’t dizziness a problem?  I like to skate also, > > but wasn’t sure how stable I’d be on skates this past > > winter.  Your doctor sounds like he’s supportive.  My GP > > told me take it real easy, and go swimming or something like > > that, as I normally go overboard with fitness….oh well. > > Maureen

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"Jim Carter" <spam.f…@softhome.net> wrote in message

news:5gkkc0hcjvkgkgen22nah3g8nevmvuse63@4ax.com… > On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:02:56 GMT, "Maureen"

<BlueEyedMoeTRASH S…@telus.net> > wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis: > >Now it seems very rushed for the second (week > >later), and my appt. with the neuro is only 4 days after, so > >I guess it could be that now they want to get me done and > >out of the way I suppose. > Or it could be your neuro is a compassionate person who knows you will be > anxious for the result.  Neuros have also been known to

put pressure on the MRI > staff.  Have some tea and crumpets (beer). >  __ > *

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Hello everyone, Question for you all. Do any of you have experience with Melaleuca products, supplements, ect? A friend of mine is trying to get me on the Melaleuca bandwagon — saying that it will help with my symptoms. My husband is a skeptic and I don’t really know what to think. Any thoughts? Thanks, Stephanie

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"Stephanie Townsend" <ler…@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:4a645$40ba84f0$40692e2c$3422@msgid.meganewsservers.com… > Hello everyone, > Question for you all. Do any of you have experience with Melaleuca products, > supplements, ect? A friend of mine is trying to get me on the Melaleuca > bandwagon — saying that it will help with my symptoms. My husband is a > skeptic and I don’t really know what to think. Any thoughts? > Thanks, > Stephanie

Isn’t that tree sap or something from Australia? If it is, I heard it is effective. Curious, V

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Stephanie Townsend wrote: > Hello everyone, > Question for you all. Do any of you have experience with Melaleuca products, > supplements, ect? A friend of mine is trying to get me on the Melaleuca > bandwagon — saying that it will help with my symptoms. My husband is a > skeptic and I don’t really know what to think. Any thoughts? > Thanks, > Stephanie

Stephanie (and others) –  it’s tea tree oil Assuming you mean topical (not oral) Last year someone asked or posted and Timothy posted this http://www.exoticbird.com/gillian/teatree.html and said to stay away from it. There are other posters who claimed it is antifungal, good for lice and Shingles http://tinyurl.com/36vrg – have a look at these Most of the posters who posted about it, aren’t here to tell us if they got worse on it or if they’re still using it or ????.. Sandra posted to someone to "see a dermatologist".  Janers is somewhere in those posts. Maybe she remembers or some of you will read the previous posts and make up your own minds.  I don’t know. J

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In article <4a645$40ba84f0$40692e2c$3…@msgid.meganewsservers.com>, Stephanie Townsend <ler…@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote >Hello everyone, >Question for you all. Do any of you have experience with Melaleuca products, >supplements, ect? A friend of mine is trying to get me on the Melaleuca >bandwagon — saying that it will help with my symptoms. My husband is a >skeptic and I don’t really know what to think. Any thoughts?

How much cash does she get if you sign up? — Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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Hello all, The only experience I have with melaleuca products is for the skin, and it has helped my seborrheic dermatitis (dandruff) on my scalp. It also seems to heal cuts well, and quickly. I use it to remove ticks from my dog. Just a little on the tick, and the thing is easily removed from the skin. The smell alone must overwhelm the tick!  I’ve put the oil on some round, red, scaly spots I occasionally get on my skin, and I’ve believed they helped with that too. I’ve been getting them off and on for ten years now, and have thought they might be psoriasis, though I don’t get them on my elbows or knees, just on my arms and legs. Now with being diagnosed with lupus, I don’t know. It may be the melaleuca oil helps dry it up, or maybe the spot was just going to fade anyway by itself, its hard to know. There is a large company that markets here in the USA that puts melaleuca oil in everything they sell, and they market an extensive collection of things, including some makeup, lotions, and perfumes, laundry soap, house cleaners, and much, much more. My mother at one time sold for them, under another person. With their system, each new person can enter into a business relationship with the company through someone else who gets something from everything they sell. There are also other partnerships as well, I believe. I never did get into the business end of it, and I’m not sold on putting melaleuca into everything either. They did have a great shampoo for psoriasis and seborrhea, which was also good on lice, etc. as someone mentioned. When last I knew they changed their formula for the shampoo, and it wasn’t any longer marketed for skin conditions, and it didn’t help. I now use shampoo from another company.  I have tried adding melaleuca oil from Walmart to other shampoos, and it wasn’t the same. Apparently the effectiveness of melaleuca oil depends on its grade, and the best are very expensive, sold by the ounce, or less.  My mom quit the company because of their research on animals, hence my connection with them is long gone. My mom never was able to get other buyers/sellers to come in under her. Most people know what they want to buy  and where to get it, they don’t want to learn about melaleuca  or the company, and don’t appreciate their friends coming after them for sales. The Australians use melaleuca oil for alot of things, I hear. I was told once they even use it in wounds in the hospital, and in surgery. I’ve never heard the oil helped with lupus, but there are other emails here with websites about some of that that I have  yet to explore. JB .Stephanie Townsend" <ler…@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:4a645$40ba84f0$40692e2c$3422@msgid.meganewsservers.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello everyone, > Question for you all. Do any of you have experience with Melaleuca products, > supplements, ect? A friend of mine is trying to get me on the Melaleuca > bandwagon — saying that it will help with my symptoms. My husband is a > skeptic and I don’t really know what to think. Any thoughts? > Thanks, > Stephanie

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I took one time in a vitamin formula and it made my mouth water all of the time. Could not tell any difference from any other vitamin except the slobbery mouth which was embarrassing. "JB" <apr…@pokynet.com> wrote in message

news:10bnmr2hpf9d31b@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all, > The only experience I have with melaleuca products is for the skin, and it > has helped my seborrheic dermatitis (dandruff) on my scalp. It also seems to > heal cuts well, and quickly. I use it to remove ticks from my dog. Just a > little on the tick, and the thing is easily removed from the skin. The smell > alone must overwhelm the tick! >  I’ve put the oil on some round, red, scaly spots I occasionally get on my > skin, and I’ve believed they helped with that too. I’ve been getting them > off and on for ten years now, and have thought they might be psoriasis, > though I don’t get them on my elbows or knees, just on my arms and legs. Now > with being diagnosed with lupus, I don’t know. It may be the melaleuca oil > helps dry it up, or maybe the spot was just going to fade anyway by itself, > its hard to know. > There is a large company that markets here in the USA that puts melaleuca > oil in everything they sell, and they market an extensive collection of > things, including some makeup, lotions, and perfumes, laundry soap, house > cleaners, and much, much more. My mother at one time sold for them, under > another person. With their system, each new person can enter into a business > relationship with the company through someone else who gets something from > everything they sell. There are also other partnerships as well, I believe. > I never did get into the business end of it, and I’m not sold on putting > melaleuca into everything either. They did have a great shampoo for > psoriasis and seborrhea, which was also good on lice, etc. as someone > mentioned. > When last I knew they changed their formula for the shampoo, and it wasn’t > any longer marketed for skin conditions, and it didn’t help. I now use > shampoo from another company.  I have tried adding melaleuca oil from > Walmart to other shampoos, and it wasn’t the same. Apparently the > effectiveness of melaleuca oil depends on its grade, and the best are very > expensive, sold by the ounce, or less.  My mom quit the company because of > their research on animals, hence my connection with them is long gone. My > mom never was able to get other buyers/sellers to come in under her. Most > people know what they want to buy  and where to get it, they don’t want to > learn about melaleuca  or the company, and don’t appreciate their friends > coming after them for sales. > The Australians use melaleuca oil for alot of things, I hear. I was told > once they even use it in wounds in the hospital, and in surgery. > I’ve never heard the oil helped with lupus, but there are other emails here > with websites about some of that that I have  yet to explore. > JB > .Stephanie Townsend" <ler…@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:4a645$40ba84f0$40692e2c$3422@msgid.meganewsservers.com… > > Hello everyone, > > Question for you all. Do any of you have experience with Melaleuca > products, > > supplements, ect? A friend of mine is trying to get me on the Melaleuca > > bandwagon — saying that it will help with my symptoms. My husband is a > > skeptic and I don’t really know what to think. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Stephanie

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Question:

Anyone had any experience with this? It’s a eye disease that causes warping/waving of the cornea; the cornea being 70% connective tissue. Candi

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Candi Bowen wrote: > Anyone had any experience with this? It’s a eye disease that causes > warping/waving of the cornea; the cornea being 70% connective tissue. > Candi

http://www.contactlenses.co.uk/education/public/keratoconus.htm Keratoconus Poor vision that cannot be corrected fully with glasses may indicate a condition known as conical cornea or keratoconus. A rare condition, keratoconus primarily affects people in their early 20

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In article <408D9FB9.A1F8…@execulink.com>, J <Buck…@example.net> wrote [ >Besides what's mentioned there, I use a high powered vacuum cleaner with a >crevice tool >it's a pointy thing to do the perimeter of every room, it's also great to go >around the edges of rooms, baseboards, and behind furniture, window ledges, >under stoves and fridges or the perimeter of the celing for dust and spider >webs. >I even do my car at least twice a year.

If you're vacuuming to get rid of allergens, you need to use a cleaner with a filter that prevents what is sucked in at the sucky end coming out the vents! One such type of filter is HEPA, I believe. Various consumer organisations do tests on these - not every machine is as wonderful as the makers say. -- Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -JB wrote: > Thanks to each of you who have responded to my long email – J, BJ, and Andy. > I can pretty well guess that all my long history is not SLE. > I think I’ll feel better when I can get in to see my primary physician, who > is a conversationalist, and who takes time with me. If not for him, I would > never have gone to the rheumatologist in the first place. I was just > troubled with my dry mouth, not wanting it to get worse, and one eye was > becoming dryer too (my eyelid was sticking to my eye after I went to sleep > at night). I need also to get in to see an ophthalmologist to explore why my > eyes are dry, apparently. My MD feels there is more we might  know about it. > The test for Sjogren’s was negative, so far; yet, the Rheum. says I could > have it, regardless. I have noticed that backing off my allergy and sinus > medication has helped, I’ll still have to take it to sometimes, but I think > I’ll wait until I’m uncomfortable rather than dose daily, like my MD had me > doing. > About seven yrs. ago, I had a nasal surgery, at the recommendation of an ENT > specialist, who said my dry nose and sores were related to turbulence from a > broken nose I suffered years before. When he did the surgery, he removed > polyps too. Since the surgery, my sinus headaches have been worse, believe > it or not, and the sore on  the septum never went away (my sinuses have  a > constant, clear drip right where the sore is). Nasal gel makes it feel > worse, and saline spray is hard to keep up with, remembering to do it with > any regularity.  My allergies are year round, due to dust mites, but now I’m > taking allergy shots, hoping to require less medication. I did get temporary > relief recently when an allergist gave me bactroban ointment to try, but it > just came back when I ran out of the medication. He stated that most nasal > ulcers have bacteria in them when biopsied, but he also said with my long > history he suspected I may never get rid of it. He told me I couldn’t use > nasal steroids for sure, though steroids never caused it. > I’ll explore the web site and FAQ’s you mentioned, thanks. > I am not ready to seek disability, I must work and bring in a good income > for now. Disability in this country doesn’t pay  the bills, I don’t believe. > Thanks again,

Best wishes to you then, If there’s anything we can do to help (info/support), please let us know. Keep in touch and thanks for explaining J

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Hi JB I posted this earlier, maybe help with your mites/allergy? There were tons (probably) at work too and paper dust. Nobody wanted to bother cleaning so I got stuck with vacuuming and tidying up and dusting. Sometimes the guys would clean off their own desks. The worst was the boss ! These things live by the millions in our bedding, pillows, curtains, mattresses/down the inside sides of mattresses, clothing, mops, cloth chairs, shoes/boots or couches and carpets. I also think they may live in certain types of wallpaper, stacks or bags of papers etc. Dust mites ! http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm Besides what’s mentioned there, I use a high powered vacuum cleaner with a crevice tool it’s a pointy thing to do the perimeter of every room, it’s also great to go around the edges of rooms, baseboards, and behind furniture, window ledges, under stoves and fridges or the perimeter of the celing for dust and spider webs. I even do my car at least twice a year. http://www.vacuum-cleaner.com/1571.html I’m not advocating any product there, just showing you what crevice tool is. So I try to do each room, bit by bit, at least 4 or 5 times a year. So if you or someone in your family has breathing problems, there’s some tips that might help. FYI and FWIW J

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"JB" <apr…@pokynet.com> wrote in message news:… > Thanks to each of you who have responded to my long email – J, BJ, and Andy. > I can pretty well guess that all my long history is not SLE. > I think I’ll feel better when I can get in to see my primary physician, who > is a conversationalist, and who takes time with me. If not for him, I would > never have gone to the rheumatologist in the first place. I was just > troubled with my dry mouth, not wanting it to get worse, and one eye was > becoming dryer too (my eyelid was sticking to my eye after I went to sleep > at night). I need also to get in to see an ophthalmologist to explore why my > eyes are dry, apparently. My MD feels there is more we might  know about it. > The test for Sjogren’s was negative, so far; yet, the Rheum. says I could > have it, regardless. I have noticed that backing off my allergy and sinus > medication has helped, I’ll still have to take it to sometimes, but I think > I’ll wait until I’m uncomfortable rather than dose daily, like my MD had me > doing. > About seven yrs. ago, I had a nasal surgery, at the recommendation of an ENT > specialist, who said my dry nose and sores were related to turbulence from a > broken nose I suffered years before. When he did the surgery, he removed > polyps too. Since the surgery, my sinus headaches have been worse, believe > it or not, and the sore on  the septum never went away (my sinuses have  a > constant, clear drip right where the sore is). Nasal gel makes it feel > worse, and saline spray is hard to keep up with, remembering to do it with > any regularity.  My allergies are year round, due to dust mites, but now I’m > taking allergy shots, hoping to require less medication. I did get temporary > relief recently when an allergist gave me bactroban ointment to try, but it > just came back when I ran out of the medication. He stated that most nasal > ulcers have bacteria in them when biopsied, but he also said with my long > history he suspected I may never get rid of it. He told me I couldn’t use > nasal steroids for sure, though steroids never caused it. > I’ll explore the web site and FAQ’s you mentioned, thanks. > I am not ready to seek disability, I must work and bring in a good income > for now. Disability in this country doesn’t pay  the bills, I don’t believe. > Thanks again, > JB > "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message > news:108neqseq95vk0b@corp.supernews.com… > > Hi JB, > > I am BJ from Canada. Now we are going to cause confusion with our > initials, > > aren’t we? <g> I would like to extend a welcome to you. We have another > > newly diagnosed member to the group, DeAnne. Both of you are at a > difficult > > and confusing time. It takes a while for the news to settle in your mind. > So > > many of the things you mentioned sound familiar to me. I have found that > > often answers as to why things happen, and the exact cause of them are > never > > given. You may have a clearer picture, once all of your other test results > > come back. We may be able to be of more help then, if you would like to > post > > the details to us. Please feel free to jump right in, and talk to us about > > anything. > > BJ-Sk. Canada > > "JB" <apr…@pokynet.com> wrote in message

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Thanks to each of you who have responded to my long email – J, BJ, and Andy. I can pretty well guess that all my long history is not SLE. I think I’ll feel better when I can get in to see my primary physician, who is a conversationalist, and who takes time with me. If not for him, I would never have gone to the rheumatologist in the first place. I was just troubled with my dry mouth, not wanting it to get worse, and one eye was becoming dryer too (my eyelid was sticking to my eye after I went to sleep at night). I need also to get in to see an ophthalmologist to explore why my eyes are dry, apparently. My MD feels there is more we might  know about it. The test for Sjogren’s was negative, so far; yet, the Rheum. says I could have it, regardless. I have noticed that backing off my allergy and sinus medication has helped, I’ll still have to take it to sometimes, but I think I’ll wait until I’m uncomfortable rather than dose daily, like my MD had me doing. About seven yrs. ago, I had a nasal surgery, at the recommendation of an ENT specialist, who said my dry nose and sores were related to turbulence from a broken nose I suffered years before. When he did the surgery, he removed polyps too. Since the surgery, my sinus headaches have been worse, believe it or not, and the sore on  the septum never went away (my sinuses have  a constant, clear drip right where the sore is). Nasal gel makes it feel worse, and saline spray is hard to keep up with, remembering to do it with any regularity.  My allergies are year round, due to dust mites, but now I’m taking allergy shots, hoping to require less medication. I did get temporary relief recently when an allergist gave me bactroban ointment to try, but it just came back when I ran out of the medication. He stated that most nasal ulcers have bacteria in them when biopsied, but he also said with my long history he suspected I may never get rid of it. He told me I couldn’t use nasal steroids for sure, though steroids never caused it. I’ll explore the web site and FAQ’s you mentioned, thanks. I am not ready to seek disability, I must work and bring in a good income for now. Disability in this country doesn’t pay  the bills, I don’t believe. Thanks again, JB "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message

news:108neqseq95vk0b@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi JB, > I am BJ from Canada. Now we are going to cause confusion with our initials, > aren’t we? <g> I would like to extend a welcome to you. We have another > newly diagnosed member to the group, DeAnne. Both of you are at a difficult > and confusing time. It takes a while for the news to settle in your mind. So > many of the things you mentioned sound familiar to me. I have found that > often answers as to why things happen, and the exact cause of them are never > given. You may have a clearer picture, once all of your other test results > come back. We may be able to be of more help then, if you would like to post > the details to us. Please feel free to jump right in, and talk to us about > anything. > BJ-Sk. Canada > "JB" <apr…@pokynet.com> wrote in message > news:108mf5gp6frku93@corp.supernews.com… > > Hello, I’m new to this group. > > I found out I have SLE just this week. > > Have had chronic fatigue/mono for 16 years (waxing/waning pattern), and > > don’t know if the two are the same, one developing into the other, or if I > > now have both. What I have now seems to me to be a continuation of the > same. > > The chronic mono has become less severe over the years, and I have learned > > to live with it pretty well. > > I have had so many symptoms over these years. > > Initially I had extreme fatigue (that felt like muscle weakness) with > muscle > > soreness and burning (especially in the upper body and extremities, much > > less noticeable in my legs),  and very painful pleurisy with trouble > > breathing.  In addition, my heart would race at around 120 beats per > minute > > for hours at a time. Early on, the exhaustion allowed me sleep, but that > did > > not last. > > After a couple years, the symptoms began to lessen in severity, and the > > heart racing stopped, as did the pleurisy finally also, and eventually the > > exacerbations lessened in length, and frequency; though I never could > always > > explain or predict why I’d have a relapse. In addition to the above, I > also > > experienced a mental fog, some headaches(possibly for a variety of > reasons, > > including a very mild pattern of vascular migraines, and allergies), and a > > strange visual change that would start sometimes at the beginning of a > > flare – similar to the color glow of photographs –  an enhancement of the > > color which is very hard to describe. > > All of this, and in the stronger episodes, there was also a feeling of > heat > > in the muscles, and sometimes a sensation of a tremor, though not visible > > shaking. I’m not sure when it started, but I began to notice my right > eyelid > > would feel like it was sagging when my muscles became tired, though it was > > just a sensation, and not a visible sagging. > > The syndrome began with what was called mononucleosis, though the monospot > > was negative. I had a high epstein-barr titer and a specked ANA, negative > > CMV, and no one ever explained the compliment testing that was done then. > > Now, I have a homogenous pattern ANA, with low compliment testing, a low > > white cell count, and  a positive anti-DNA. That is all I know right now. > > More testing is being done, and more results are yet to come in from what > > was already done. > > I had non-hodgkins lymphoma about 5 years after the chronic mono started, > > and  went through chemo and radiation, actually feeling better during and > > immediately after the treatment. > >  My heart beat stopped the racing it did 14-16 years ago, as I mentioned > > before, but when my lymphoma was diagnosed, I experienced instead a > > fluttering in my chest one night, and the sensations of a flip-flop, and > > momentary fullness in my chest and throat. I’m able to palpate the > > irregularity at times, when I feel the fullness and flip-flop sensation, > but > > I never have any other complaints with it. I can go for long periods and > not > > feel a thing, and then one day, I’ll notice it again. I’ve tried to pay > > attention to medications and to caffeine, but can’t relate the changes to > > either.  When I’m at the doctor’s office, or on the rare occasions I’ve > had > > an EKG, the irregularity wasn’t present, and I haven’t made an issue of > it, > > fearful of the consequences that might come of a diagnosis (I need to have > a > > job), as well as the fact that I am asymptomatic when it happens, and I’d > > rather not be on medication if I don’t absolutely have to do it. > > I have developed chest  wall complaints, sometimes quite painful, in the > > last several years, and pleurisy has been my companion most of the last > > year. The fatigue, muscle aches and burning, and eyelid sagging sensation > > make up the primary recurring symptoms now, though I do also get the > visual > > glow, and tremor sometimes, too. > > In the last several years, my joints have become problematic (apparently > > more bursitis and tendonitis, with some osteoarthritis, and not easily > > attributed to SLE (more related to "over use" says the rheumatologist)). > >  I’ve had a nasal septal ulcer for 10 years, and don’t know if that’s > lupus > > related or not. > > I also get small circular, red, raised, and scaling spots occasionally, > too. > > I’ve had them on my arms and legs (not elbows or knees), one at  a time; > > but I’ve always thought them to be mild psoriasis, though I only began to > > see them in the last 10 years, after recovery from radiation and chemo. > >  My eyes have been dry, requiring artificial tears for ten years, and in > > recent months my mouth has become dry on the upper palate, mostly > noticeable > > when I try to eat a sandwich. My eyes have been extremely sensitive to > light > > for many years. My face turns red hot easily for various reasons, > including > > room temperature, exertion, and embarrassment, and my muscles burn when > > exposed to even warm inside lighting. Yet I don’t believe I’ve ever had a > > butterfly or malar rash like I’ve seen in  the  SLE literature. I have had > > moderately severe seborrheic dermatitis in my scalp most of my adult life, > > and atopic dermatitis around my nose for many years – but it is scaly, and > > easily controlled with gentle, liquid facial soap washing twice a day > > ((steroid cream would probably make it disappear (at least with consistent > > use), but I haven’t made a habit of using it)). > > Parts of my abdomen and back have become partially numb, in the last year. > > The abdominal area started about a year ago and seems to extend down from > > where the chest wall soreness stays so often, but the  numbness in my back > > is further up, mid-back. > > I don’t know what to think about what I’ve been told. I don’t know what to > > think of all my body aches and complaints, either. The rheumatologist is > not > > easy to talk with, not a conversationalist, and doesn’t explain what she > > does say. I don’t know what I’m going  to do, or be able to do to help > > myself or change my lifestyle . > > If there is risk to various organ deterioration (I know nothing of the > > extent of things as they are), I will need to try to avoid things that > might > > trigger relapses, but I can’t imagine giving up work that I must do to pay > > my bills. > > Your comment here about gravity not being your friend sounds like what I > > call "mud in my blood". I feel heavy, like if I could just lay down, I > would > > feel such relief, and if  I can, I do feel relief. Sometimes, just 15 > > minutes lying down can make such a difference, but when one is at work, or > > otherwise involved, it isn’t possible, so I’ve

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In article <408B7C48.D3A15…@execulink.com>, J <StockBri…@anon.anon> wrote >Hello and welcome to alt.support.lupus

Seconded [ >Do you think it's time to try applying for disability benefits? Instead of one >word (diagnosis), it sometimes helps to list each problem and how it prevents a >person from being able to cope (at home and at work), because if we can't cope >at home, then it's difficult to keep the work thing going (unless a person is >rich or paid a high salary and can afford cooks, maids, chauffeurs etc).

If you're doing this, emphasise how bad life is when it's bad, not how well you can cope when it's good. -- Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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Hi JB, I am BJ from Canada. Now we are going to cause confusion with our initials, aren’t we? <g> I would like to extend a welcome to you. We have another newly diagnosed member to the group, DeAnne. Both of you are at a difficult and confusing time. It takes a while for the news to settle in your mind. So many of the things you mentioned sound familiar to me. I have found that often answers as to why things happen, and the exact cause of them are never given. You may have a clearer picture, once all of your other test results come back. We may be able to be of more help then, if you would like to post the details to us. Please feel free to jump right in, and talk to us about anything. BJ-Sk. Canada "JB" <apr…@pokynet.com> wrote in message

news:108mf5gp6frku93@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello, I’m new to this group. > I found out I have SLE just this week. > Have had chronic fatigue/mono for 16 years (waxing/waning pattern), and > don’t know if the two are the same, one developing into the other, or if I > now have both. What I have now seems to me to be a continuation of the same. > The chronic mono has become less severe over the years, and I have learned > to live with it pretty well. > I have had so many symptoms over these years. > Initially I had extreme fatigue (that felt like muscle weakness) with muscle > soreness and burning (especially in the upper body and extremities, much > less noticeable in my legs),  and very painful pleurisy with trouble > breathing.  In addition, my heart would race at around 120 beats per minute > for hours at a time. Early on, the exhaustion allowed me sleep, but that did > not last. > After a couple years, the symptoms began to lessen in severity, and the > heart racing stopped, as did the pleurisy finally also, and eventually the > exacerbations lessened in length, and frequency; though I never could always > explain or predict why I’d have a relapse. In addition to the above, I also > experienced a mental fog, some headaches(possibly for a variety of reasons, > including a very mild pattern of vascular migraines, and allergies), and a > strange visual change that would start sometimes at the beginning of a > flare – similar to the color glow of photographs –  an enhancement of the > color which is very hard to describe. > All of this, and in the stronger episodes, there was also a feeling of heat > in the muscles, and sometimes a sensation of a tremor, though not visible > shaking. I’m not sure when it started, but I began to notice my right eyelid > would feel like it was sagging when my muscles became tired, though it was > just a sensation, and not a visible sagging. > The syndrome began with what was called mononucleosis, though the monospot > was negative. I had a high epstein-barr titer and a specked ANA, negative > CMV, and no one ever explained the compliment testing that was done then. > Now, I have a homogenous pattern ANA, with low compliment testing, a low > white cell count, and  a positive anti-DNA. That is all I know right now. > More testing is being done, and more results are yet to come in from what > was already done. > I had non-hodgkins lymphoma about 5 years after the chronic mono started, > and  went through chemo and radiation, actually feeling better during and > immediately after the treatment. >  My heart beat stopped the racing it did 14-16 years ago, as I mentioned > before, but when my lymphoma was diagnosed, I experienced instead a > fluttering in my chest one night, and the sensations of a flip-flop, and > momentary fullness in my chest and throat. I’m able to palpate the > irregularity at times, when I feel the fullness and flip-flop sensation, but > I never have any other complaints with it. I can go for long periods and not > feel a thing, and then one day, I’ll notice it again. I’ve tried to pay > attention to medications and to caffeine, but can’t relate the changes to > either.  When I’m at the doctor’s office, or on the rare occasions I’ve had > an EKG, the irregularity wasn’t present, and I haven’t made an issue of it, > fearful of the consequences that might come of a diagnosis (I need to have a > job), as well as the fact that I am asymptomatic when it happens, and I’d > rather not be on medication if I don’t absolutely have to do it. > I have developed chest  wall complaints, sometimes quite painful, in the > last several years, and pleurisy has been my companion most of the last > year. The fatigue, muscle aches and burning, and eyelid sagging sensation > make up the primary recurring symptoms now, though I do also get the visual > glow, and tremor sometimes, too. > In the last several years, my joints have become problematic (apparently > more bursitis and tendonitis, with some osteoarthritis, and not easily > attributed to SLE (more related to "over use" says the rheumatologist)). >  I’ve had a nasal septal ulcer for 10 years, and don’t know if that’s lupus > related or not. > I also get small circular, red, raised, and scaling spots occasionally, too. > I’ve had them on my arms and legs (not elbows or knees), one at  a  time; > but I’ve always thought them to be mild psoriasis, though I only began to > see them in the last 10 years, after recovery from radiation and chemo. >  My eyes have been dry, requiring artificial tears for ten years, and in > recent months my mouth has become dry on the upper palate, mostly noticeable > when I try to eat a sandwich. My eyes have been extremely sensitive to light > for many years. My face turns red hot easily for various reasons, including > room temperature, exertion, and embarrassment, and my muscles burn when > exposed to even warm inside lighting. Yet I don’t believe I’ve ever had a > butterfly or malar rash like I’ve seen in  the  SLE literature. I have had > moderately severe seborrheic dermatitis in my scalp most of my adult life, > and atopic dermatitis around my nose for many years – but it is scaly, and > easily controlled with gentle, liquid facial soap washing twice a day > ((steroid cream would probably make it disappear (at least with consistent > use), but I haven’t made a habit of using it)). > Parts of my abdomen and back have become partially numb, in the last year. > The abdominal area started about a year ago and seems to extend down from > where the chest wall soreness stays so often, but the  numbness in my back > is further up, mid-back. > I don’t know what to think about what I’ve been told. I don’t know what to > think of all my body aches and complaints, either. The rheumatologist is not > easy to talk with, not a conversationalist, and doesn’t explain what she > does say. I don’t know what I’m going  to do, or be able to do to help > myself or change my lifestyle . > If there is risk to various organ deterioration (I know nothing of the > extent of things as they are), I will need to try to avoid things that might > trigger relapses, but I can’t imagine giving up work that I must do to pay > my bills. > Your comment here about gravity not being your friend sounds like what I > call "mud in my blood". I feel heavy, like if I could just lay down, I would > feel such relief, and if  I can, I do feel relief. Sometimes, just 15 > minutes lying down can make such a difference, but when one is at work, or > otherwise involved, it isn’t possible, so I’ve learned just to suffer > through, because I felt I had no choice. For me, the extreme feelings do > pass in time too, when I am forced to work through them, so I’ve learned to > hold on to that hope, and not to allow myself to give in to the moment. > Please respond with any insight or guidance, given your experience. > Thanks, JB > "Mermaid" <ptaw…@tflt.com> wrote in message > news:108cqksje8bkhbe@corp.supernews.com… > > Gosh I just don’t know what is wrong with me lately. Do you ever feel like > > gravity is not your friend? Especially in the mornings, I feel like a ton > of > > concrete is on top of me. No energy and wish I could sleep for 3 days. Oh > > top of everything else, my husband is going to have knee repair surgery > May > > 21th. And he is not known for being a good patient. He will be a whinny > baby > > for a while. Wonder how he would feel having Lupus? LOL Still missing my > > doggie. However, not sure why, but a cat has shown up at the house. It > only > > comes around at night. Sweet thing. Marked like Morris, only with long > hair. > > Friendly and very talkative. I think it may have another home somewhere > and > > we are the moonlighting job. Anyway, that’s it for me. > > Just checking in and dragging my behind, > > Paulette Ethyl Mermaid

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Hello and welcome to alt.support.lupus  When I was reading about your eyes and nose, a few thoughts came to mind. Wondering if you’ve got some Sj

Question:

I just read a short blurb in the new Readers Digest in an article about foods that heal, that people with automimmune diseases may expereince a decrease in symptoms when they eat grapefruit daily. There is a substance that helps decrease inflammation.  I’ve been eating it daily because it’s also supposed to be helpful to people trying to loose weight.  Don’t know that it’s helping with inflammation, but it could be a subtle thing. Gretchen

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In article <d2a1bf69.0403140222.601a4…@posting.google.com>,  DGM…@earthlink.net (Gretchen) wrote: > I just read a short blurb in the new Readers Digest in an article > about foods that heal, that people with automimmune diseases may > expereince a decrease in symptoms when they eat grapefruit daily. > There is a substance that helps decrease inflammation.  I’ve been > eating it daily because it’s also supposed to be helpful to people > trying to lose weight.  Don’t know that it’s helping with > inflammation, but it could be a subtle thing.

A lot of my meds say to not eat grapefruit or drink grapefruit juice at any time while taking the med – best to check with a doctor or pharmacist too see if grapefruit will render any drugs useless before starting (grapefruit also increases the effects of some drugs, too). — "Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." – Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather

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Hi Gretchen, I don’t eat grapefruit because, as REP said, it can interfer with certain drugs. You would have to know exactly what those drugs are, and make sure than it wouldn’t be a problem with anything you are taking. BJ-Sk. Canada "Gretchen" <DGM…@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:d2a1bf69.0403140222.601a48d2@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I just read a short blurb in the new Readers Digest in an article > about foods that heal, that people with automimmune diseases may > expereince a decrease in symptoms when they eat grapefruit daily. > There is a substance that helps decrease inflammation.  I’ve been > eating it daily because it’s also supposed to be helpful to people > trying to loose weight.  Don’t know that it’s helping with > inflammation, but it could be a subtle thing. > Gretchen

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Two main drugs that you should not eat grapefruit, or drink the juice are Statins such as lipitor, pravachol, zocar, those for high cholesterol. Another is verapamil and the group that is in, it is a blood pressure and heart medicine. Please ask your pharmacist about ANY meds you are taking that might interfere with the use of grapefruit.  It is a must.  some put the warnings right on the label and others just plum don’t. Asking is the best policy. good luck janers

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In article <fpWdnS8zdMYN4cndRVn…@bright.net>,  "janers" <rojak…@bright.net> wrote: > Two main drugs that you should not eat grapefruit, or drink the juice are > Statins such as lipitor, pravachol, zocar, those for high cholesterol. > Another is verapamil and the group that is in, it is a blood pressure and > heart medicine.

Buspar is another one (anti-anxiety). — "Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." – Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather

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must also add that grapefruit on a regular basis can upset IBD… "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message

news:1058v2hl9lguj9a@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Gretchen, > I don’t eat grapefruit because, as REP said, it can interfer with certain > drugs. You would have to know exactly what those drugs are, and make sure > than it wouldn’t be a problem with anything you are taking. > BJ-Sk. Canada > "Gretchen" <DGM…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:d2a1bf69.0403140222.601a48d2@posting.google.com… > > I just read a short blurb in the new Readers Digest in an article > > about foods that heal, that people with automimmune diseases may > > expereince a decrease in symptoms when they eat grapefruit daily. > > There is a substance that helps decrease inflammation.  I’ve been > > eating it daily because it’s also supposed to be helpful to people > > trying to loose weight.  Don’t know that it’s helping with > > inflammation, but it could be a subtle thing. > > Gretchen

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In article <d2a1bf69.0403140222.601a4…@posting.google.com>, Gretchen <DGM…@earthlink.net> wrote >I just read a short blurb in the new Readers Digest in an article >about foods that heal, that people with automimmune diseases may >expereince a decrease in symptoms when they eat grapefruit daily. >There is a substance that helps decrease inflammation.  I’ve been >eating it daily because it’s also supposed to be helpful to people >trying to loose weight.  Don’t know that it’s helping with >inflammation, but it could be a subtle thing.

One warning – some drugs don’t work if taken at the same time as grapefruit. I think it’s the slow-release ones: perhaps the fruit acid attacks the matrix. Sometimes this is written on the label, but if you start a new drug it’s worth checking on. — Andy [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

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OK, this was not the response I expected.  Yes, I know that grapefruit can interfer with certain drugs, but so can milk and antacids.  Just thought it was interesting, and something I’d never heard before. Gretchen

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Hee. Yes. I think ‘grapefruit’ is one of those flags for Lupus people (because of drug interaction). And don’t mention echinacea…. Grace. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gretchen wrote: > OK, this was not the response I expected.  Yes, I know that grapefruit > can interfer with certain drugs, but so can milk and antacids.  Just > thought it was interesting, and something I’d never heard before. > Gretchen

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I guess since my husband is a pharmacist and Walgreens labels it’s prescriptions with warnings, I know that my meds are OK.  I never considered grapefruit controversial ;o) Grace, I finished your book and really appreciated it.  I can’t say that I enjoyed it, only because it’s a pretty scary story that could happen to any of us.  It’s well told and I really liked hearing all the different viewpoints from your family.  Your ultimate message is inspiring and made me look at my everyday struggles and minor in comparison.  I think, "If Grace could do it with all her problems, I certainly can."  It also made me realize that there is help from above, if we are humble enough to ask. If anyone would like to borrow Grace’s book "Knocked Off My Knees" I would be happy to share. Gretchen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Grace Casselman <gr…@casselman.net> wrote in message <news:405A04D3.2C5C5D88@casselman.net>… > Hee. Yes. > I think ‘grapefruit’ is one of those flags for Lupus people (because of > drug interaction). And don’t mention echinacea…. > Grace. > Gretchen wrote: > > OK, this was not the response I expected.  Yes, I know that grapefruit > > can interfer with certain drugs, but so can milk and antacids.  Just > > thought it was interesting, and something I’d never heard before. > > Gretchen

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Gretchen: Thank you so much for your kind words. If my experience and what I learned help a bit; then it makes it all a little better. Grace.

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Question:

I get peripheral neuropathy and uncontrollable night sweats. When the sweats happen, they stop the moment I wake up & return as soon as I fall back asleep; weird. Oh, & double vision. Well, maybe that’s from the occipital problem, I forget. Candi ———- In article <101od22s5mko…@corp.supernews.com>, "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their >autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me >whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common occurance. >BJ-Sk. Canada

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Chaos Hill wrote: > yes;m, me too – though have not been so bad since going ‘natural’ with all > the NP’s help. The Bvitamins help, magnesium helps – but still have much the > same symptoms with some muscle spasms and neck stiffness that radiates….

I don’t know that BJ would find more magnesium helpful (the runs). She maybe needs more Vitamin D and slow down her digestion. In fact, she’s taking digestive enzymes, which I guess break the foods down into more/smaller digestible parts and why I’m not sure, because that might be contributing to the runs. (and less absorption?) Net claims for digestive enzymes "lose weight". No wonder the prairie chick is so slim and fatiqued. Shhh ! she’s probably sleeping right about this time.. J

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J wrote: > Shhh ! she’s probably sleeping right about this time..

I was wrong, she was busy e-mailing me <g> J

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shhhhhh…….. ah yes, I cannot take the digestive enzymes… so the mag does double duty for me…. "J" <RoundT…@invalid.inv> wrote in message

news:401D5954.6DCEE32C@execulink.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Chaos Hill wrote: > > yes;m, me too – though have not been so bad since going ‘natural’ with all > > the NP’s help. The Bvitamins help, magnesium helps – but still have much the > > same symptoms with some muscle spasms and neck stiffness that radiates…. > I don’t know that BJ would find more magnesium helpful (the runs). She maybe > needs more Vitamin D and slow down her digestion. > In fact, she’s taking digestive enzymes, which I guess break the foods down into > more/smaller digestible parts and why I’m not sure, because that might be > contributing to the runs. (and less absorption?) > Net claims for digestive enzymes "lose weight". No wonder the prairie chick is > so slim and fatiqued. > Shhh ! she’s probably sleeping right about this time.. > J

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i don’t get double vision, but it wavers and i have focus difficulties "Candi Bowen" <reen…@neo.rr.com> wrote in message

news:9NbTb.61009$DE.46763@fe2.columbus.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I get peripheral neuropathy and uncontrollable night sweats. When the sweats > happen, they stop the moment I wake up & return as soon as I fall back > asleep; weird. Oh, & double vision. Well, maybe that’s from the occipital > problem, I forget. > Candi > ———- > In article <101od22s5mko…@corp.supernews.com>, "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> > wrote: > >I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their > >autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me > >whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common occurance. > >BJ-Sk. Canada

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Hi Leslie, I tried digestive enzymes a few years ago when I went to a NP. He had me on a special diet and a lot of other stuff too. I don’t take any of that now. I have often thought of trying a naturopathic physician again, but I am not really sure how good they are here. It is a small city with few doctors anyway. BJ-Sk. Canada "Chaos Hill" <mrsmu…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:isidnaH8NpzH5IDdRVn-uQ@centurytel.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> shhhhhh…….. > ah yes, I cannot take the digestive enzymes… so the mag does double duty > for me…. > "J" <RoundT…@invalid.inv> wrote in message > news:401D5954.6DCEE32C@execulink.com… > > Chaos Hill wrote: > > > yes;m, me too – though have not been so bad since going ‘natural’ with > all > > > the NP’s help. The Bvitamins help, magnesium helps – but still have much > the > > > same symptoms with some muscle spasms and neck stiffness that > radiates…. > > I don’t know that BJ would find more magnesium helpful (the runs). She > maybe > > needs more Vitamin D and slow down her digestion. > > In fact, she’s taking digestive enzymes, which I guess break the foods > down into > > more/smaller digestible parts and why I’m not sure, because that might be > > contributing to the runs. (and less absorption?) > > Net claims for digestive enzymes "lose weight". No wonder the prairie > chick is > > so slim and fatiqued. > > Shhh ! she’s probably sleeping right about this time.. > > J

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I don’t get double vision with this problem. My vision does get blurry though. I don’t have all this now, Candi. Well, some of it in minor form. It is odd how all this can happen and then gradually go away as they get a handle on my lupus. BJ-Sk. Canada "Candi Bowen" <reen…@neo.rr.com> wrote in message

news:9NbTb.61009$DE.46763@fe2.columbus.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I get peripheral neuropathy and uncontrollable night sweats. When the sweats > happen, they stop the moment I wake up & return as soon as I fall back > asleep; weird. Oh, & double vision. Well, maybe that’s from the occipital > problem, I forget. > Candi > ———- > In article <101od22s5mko…@corp.supernews.com>, "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> > wrote: > >I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their > >autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me > >whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common occurance. > >BJ-Sk. Canada

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Our town is smallish – however it was the lack of results that were satisfactory and all my allergies that I finally decide to try the NP – we have had some things not work and some that have. All I know is that I am a whole lot better than I was a year or two years ago! I accept the fact that some things I must just live with, but like you I consider myself rather healthy in that I am far better off than a lot of people! "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message

news:101qvjlgpbnotcb@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Leslie, > I tried digestive enzymes a few years ago when I went to a NP. He had me on > a special diet and a lot of other stuff too. I don’t take any of that now. I > have often thought of trying a naturopathic physician again, but I am not > really sure how good they are here. It is a small city with few doctors > anyway. > BJ-Sk. Canada > "Chaos Hill" <mrsmu…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:isidnaH8NpzH5IDdRVn-uQ@centurytel.net… > > shhhhhh…….. > > ah yes, I cannot take the digestive enzymes… so the mag does double duty > > for me…. > > "J" <RoundT…@invalid.inv> wrote in message > > news:401D5954.6DCEE32C@execulink.com… > > > Chaos Hill wrote: > > > > yes;m, me too – though have not been so bad since going ‘natural’ with > > all > > > > the NP’s help. The Bvitamins help, magnesium helps – but still have > much > > the > > > > same symptoms with some muscle spasms and neck stiffness that > > radiates…. > > > I don’t know that BJ would find more magnesium helpful (the runs). She > > maybe > > > needs more Vitamin D and slow down her digestion. > > > In fact, she’s taking digestive enzymes, which I guess break the foods > > down into > > > more/smaller digestible parts and why I’m not sure, because that might > be > > > contributing to the runs. (and less absorption?) > > > Net claims for digestive enzymes "lose weight". No wonder the prairie > > chick is > > > so slim and fatiqued. > > > Shhh ! she’s probably sleeping right about this time.. > > > J

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> Hi Gretchen, > It involves some really weird, and contradictory stuff. My bowel function > becomes so overactive that you could never count the bathroom visits.

My entire GI tract seems to go haywire – my esophagus spasms, I have a hard time swallowing, when I eat it feels like there’s a rock in my gut and I’m nauseated.  I don’t usually get the runs, but do get crampy. My > bladder is also involved. Do you know the size of those big plastic > containers they use for a 24hr urine? I fill two of them!

I get bladder spasms.  Sometimes I can’t empty it all the way, other times I just get sharp pain when it’s full. My heart rate > becomes incredibly rapid.

I take beta blockers for SVT, but I still have times when it feels like my heart wants to take off, but can’t because of the meds.  I’ll have intense chest pain when I lie down, but get immediate relief by sitting up – but then I get dizzy and my ears go numb and start ringing, so I have to semi-recline. Breathing becomes difficult. I burn all over. This > causes profuse sweathing and nausea. The nerves in my face and head are the > worst, but the burning moves from place to place. I live with ice packs > wrapped around my neck. My muscles also burn.

That sounds horrible!  I will break out in a sweat just cooking dinner when I’m flaring, but only get the muscle burning when I climb the stairs or lift something.  When I’m really tired my lungs burn like I’ve run a marathon in the Arctic. Alternately, I get so cold > that my hands, feet and legs feel like ice, not just to me but to the touch > of others.

Me, too.  I just can’t get warm.  This happens to me more often after UV exposure or whenever I exercise.  My hubby knows I’m flaring when he comes home and I’m wrapped up from head to toe. I get odd discolourations on my skin. The doctor calls it livedo. > Apparently a certain number of lupus patients are affected in this way. I > wondered if anyone else here had that too. I only get this when I am very > ill. Now you know why I said it was weird.

OK, then I’m wierd, too.  Some of the things I experience are so strange that I can’t even explain to anyone else what is going on. I’ve wondered before if lupus could affect one part of the nervous system, because all my smooth muscles seem to do wierd things.  And some things just defy description to anyone else.  Thanks for sharing your symptoms – I bet there are lurkers who recognize themselves in your descriptions.  Take care, BJ Gretchen

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Hey BJ, Have you ever had your thyroid checked. They say it is our like computer of our body and that if that is out of whack all kinds of things can happen. Just a thought, Hope you get to feeling better, Paulette "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message

news:101qvqudr3euse0@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t get double vision with this problem. My vision does get blurry > though. I don’t have all this now, Candi. Well, some of it in minor form. It > is odd how all this can happen and then gradually go away as they get a > handle on my lupus. > BJ-Sk. Canada > "Candi Bowen" <reen…@neo.rr.com> wrote in message > news:9NbTb.61009$DE.46763@fe2.columbus.rr.com… > > I get peripheral neuropathy and uncontrollable night sweats. When the > sweats > > happen, they stop the moment I wake up & return as soon as I fall back > > asleep; weird. Oh, & double vision. Well, maybe that’s from the occipital > > problem, I forget. > > Candi > > ———- > > In article <101od22s5mko…@corp.supernews.com>, "BJ"

<B…@sk.nojunk.ca> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > wrote: > > >I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their > > >autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me > > >whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common > occurance. > > >BJ-Sk. Canada

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Hi Paulette E M, Yes, I had a thyroid problem years ago. My TSH was very high, so they did a needle biopsy. I have Hashimoto’s. You had that same thing, I think. I see an endocrinologist to handle the problem. I am not all that well regulated, so my dosage of synthroid gets changed from time to time. The problem with my nervous system is caused by my lupus. I am okay now, but I can tell you that I think I am in hell when that happens. BJ-Sk. Canada "Mermaid" <ptaw…@tflt.com> wrote in message

news:101vs4tir9nuh91@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey BJ, > Have you ever had your thyroid checked. They say it is our like computer of > our body and that if that is out of whack all kinds of things can happen. > Just a thought, > Hope you get to feeling better, > Paulette > "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message > news:101qvqudr3euse0@corp.supernews.com… > > I don’t get double vision with this problem. My vision does get blurry > > though. I don’t have all this now, Candi. Well, some of it in minor form. > It > > is odd how all this can happen and then gradually go away as they get a > > handle on my lupus. > > BJ-Sk. Canada > > "Candi Bowen" <reen…@neo.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:9NbTb.61009$DE.46763@fe2.columbus.rr.com… > > > I get peripheral neuropathy and uncontrollable night sweats. When the > > sweats > > > happen, they stop the moment I wake up & return as soon as I fall back > > > asleep; weird. Oh, & double vision. Well, maybe that’s from the > occipital > > > problem, I forget. > > > Candi > > > ———- > > > In article <101od22s5mko…@corp.supernews.com>, "BJ" > <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> > > > wrote: > > > >I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their > > > >autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me > > > >whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common > > occurance. > > > >BJ-Sk. Canada

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Hi Gretchen, I know what you mean about not being able to explain the strange things that happen. No one can begin to imagine, unless they experience it themselves. You know, they tried beta blockers with me too, but my blood pressure got so low that they took me off them. Actually, it might have been calcium channel blockers. I don’t remember now for sure. Anyway, my blood pressure is very low to begin with, so the results of the med were interesting, to say the least. BJ-Sk. Canada "Gretchen" <DGM…@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:d2a1bf69.0402031041.6f0f5cc0@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hi Gretchen, > > It involves some really weird, and contradictory stuff. My bowel function > > becomes so overactive that you could never count the bathroom visits. > My entire GI tract seems to go haywire – my esophagus spasms, I have a > hard time swallowing, when I eat it feels like there’s a rock in my > gut and I’m nauseated.  I don’t usually get the runs, but do get > crampy. > My > > bladder is also involved. Do you know the size of those big plastic > > containers they use for a 24hr urine? I fill two of them! > I get bladder spasms.  Sometimes I can’t empty it all the way, other > times I just get sharp pain when it’s full. > My heart rate > > becomes incredibly rapid. > I take beta blockers for SVT, but I still have times when it feels > like my heart wants to take off, but can’t because of the meds.  I’ll > have intense chest pain when I lie down, but get immediate relief by > sitting up – but then I get dizzy and my ears go numb and start > ringing, so I have to semi-recline. > Breathing becomes difficult. I burn all over. This > > causes profuse sweathing and nausea. The nerves in my face and head are the > > worst, but the burning moves from place to place. I live with ice packs > > wrapped around my neck. My muscles also burn. > That sounds horrible!  I will break out in a sweat just cooking dinner > when I’m flaring, but only get the muscle burning when I climb the > stairs or lift something.  When I’m really tired my lungs burn like > I’ve run a marathon in the Arctic. > Alternately, I get so cold > > that my hands, feet and legs feel like ice, not just to me but to the touch > > of others. > Me, too.  I just can’t get warm.  This happens to me more often after > UV exposure or whenever I exercise.  My hubby knows I’m flaring when > he comes home and I’m wrapped up from head to toe. > I get odd discolourations on my skin. The doctor calls it livedo. > > Apparently a certain number of lupus patients are affected in this way. I > > wondered if anyone else here had that too. I only get this when I am very > > ill. Now you know why I said it was weird. > OK, then I’m wierd, too.  Some of the things I experience are so > strange that I can’t even explain to anyone else what is going on. > I’ve wondered before if lupus could affect one part of the nervous > system, because all my smooth muscles seem to do wierd things.  And > some things just defy description to anyone else.  Thanks for sharing > your symptoms – I bet there are lurkers who recognize themselves in > your descriptions.  Take care, BJ > Gretchen

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Howdy Terrice! I’m glad you found us!  Welcome to the group!  I hope we can be of some help to you, even if it’s just someone to listen after a hard day at work. There are other’s here with CNS, so watch for their posts.  It’s kinda slow right now, but it’ll pick back up. Hugs, Maggie

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I’m new, just found you today.  Wow, are you desribing me.  I’ve been to an internis and, neurologist, and I have to change rheumatologist.  I  had an MRI of vascular and nervous system which came back normal?  Next week I’m having a lumbar puncture.  But all my symptoms are what you have just described plus nausea and feeling faint.  I’m in a major flare now, I’ve been really well for 6 years and now this.  I ask if it could be CNS and the neuro didn’t think so. My name is Terrice and I live in Dallas.  I have to work and I’m amazed at the end of each day that I’m still standing.

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Hi Terrice, I am glad that you found us too. Sorry you have the nervous system problem. I was constantly nauseated and felt faint as well, by the way. My coordination was lousy too. The neuro said that I had neurological deficit on my right side. Gad, it is a miserable thing. I don’t know how you manage to work. That amazes me. I could not walk properly, nor form coherent sentences. I had to slowly think through the simplest task. I had some other problems thrown in there too, so we were never sure what came from what, if you know what I mean. I hope you will be able to talk to us often. Someone is usually around to chat or answer questions. Welcome to the group. BJ-Sk. Canada "Terriceabecassis" <terriceabecas…@cs.com> wrote in message

news:20040215001227.11422.00002221@mb-m05.news.cs.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m new, just found you today.  Wow, are you desribing me.  I’ve been to an > internis and, neurologist, and I have to change rheumatologist.  I  had an MRI > of vascular and nervous system which came back normal?  Next week I’m having a > lumbar puncture.  But all my symptoms are what you have just described plus > nausea and feeling faint.  I’m in a major flare now, I’ve been really well for > 6 years and now this.  I ask if it could be CNS and the neuro didn’t think so. > My name is Terrice and I live in Dallas.  I have to work and I’m amazed at the > end of each day that I’m still standing.

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Hi Gretchen, It involves some really weird, and contradictory stuff. My bowel function becomes so overactive that you could never count the bathroom visits. My bladder is also involved. Do you know the size of those big plastic containers they use for a 24hr urine? I fill two of them! My heart rate becomes incredibly rapid. Breathing becomes difficult. I burn all over. This causes profuse sweathing and nausea. The nerves in my face and head are the worst, but the burning moves from place to place. I live with ice packs wrapped around my neck. My muscles also burn. Alternately, I get so cold that my hands, feet and legs feel like ice, not just to me but to the touch of others. I get odd discolourations on my skin. The doctor calls it livedo. Apparently a certain number of lupus patients are affected in this way. I wondered if anyone else here had that too. I only get this when I am very ill. Now you know why I said it was weird. BJ-Sk. Canada "Gretchen" <DGM…@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:d2a1bf69.0402010316.5c1439bc@posting.google.com… > "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message

<news:101od22s5mko4b0@corp.supernews.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their > > autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me > > whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common occurance. > > BJ-Sk. Canada > BJ, what kinds of symptoms do you have? > Gretchen

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yes;m, me too – though have not been so bad since going ‘natural’ with all the NP’s help. The Bvitamins help, magnesium helps – but still have much the same symptoms with some muscle spasms and neck stiffness that radiates…. "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message

news:101q8kq7iteqafd@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Gretchen, > It involves some really weird, and contradictory stuff. My bowel function > becomes so overactive that you could never count the bathroom visits. My > bladder is also involved. Do you know the size of those big plastic > containers they use for a 24hr urine? I fill two of them! My heart rate > becomes incredibly rapid. Breathing becomes difficult. I burn all over. This > causes profuse sweathing and nausea. The nerves in my face and head are the > worst, but the burning moves from place to place. I live with ice packs > wrapped around my neck. My muscles also burn. Alternately, I get so cold > that my hands, feet and legs feel like ice, not just to me but to the touch > of others. I get odd discolourations on my skin. The doctor calls it livedo. > Apparently a certain number of lupus patients are affected in this way. I > wondered if anyone else here had that too. I only get this when I am very > ill. Now you know why I said it was weird. > BJ-Sk. Canada > "Gretchen" <DGM…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:d2a1bf69.0402010316.5c1439bc@posting.google.com… > > "BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message > <news:101od22s5mko4b0@corp.supernews.com>… > > > I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their > > > autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me > > > whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common > occurance. > > > BJ-Sk. Canada > > BJ, what kinds of symptoms do you have? > > Gretchen

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I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common occurance. BJ-Sk. Canada

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BJ wrote: > I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their > autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me > whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common occurance. > BJ-Sk. Canada

So anything (in the body) affected except the brain, spine and peripherals? J http://www.lupus.org/education/brochures/systemic.html The Body’s Nervous System The nervous system is divided into three parts: The central nervous system (CNS) consists of the brain and spinal cord. The peripheral nervous system is comprised of nerve fibers that supply the skin and muscles with the power needed for sensation and movement. The autonomic nervous system helps to regulate spinal nerves and peripheral nerves, and innervates, or supplies nerves to, the internal organs. Its role in SLE is poorly defined. http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/auto.html The ANS is divided into three parts: The sympathetic nervous system The parasympathetic nervous system The enteric nervous system.

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"BJ" <B…@sk.nojunk.ca> wrote in message <news:101od22s5mko4b0@corp.supernews.com>… > I am just interested to know how many of you out there have had their > autonomic nervous system effected by their lupus. This happens to me > whenever I am in a major flare.Was wondering if this is a common occurance. > BJ-Sk. Canada

BJ, what kinds of symptoms do you have? Gretchen

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What are your experiences with Plaquenil, especially for rash, joint/tendon inflammation and fatigue? My mum has primary Sj

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My wife suffers from Lupus (SLE) and we are considering changing to Kaiser Permanente beginning Jan 1. I wonder if any folks on this newsgroup have experience obtaining medical services for Lupus in the Kaiser medical group?  If so, have you had good experiences?  Was it easy to arrange for a knowledgeable specialist? I just checked and all of the pain meds my wife is currently taking are not covered by Kaiser — that’s one problem; although, I have to admit, I’d love to see her come off some of the meds anyway.  Not that I’m an uncaring   husband who doesn’t understand the problems of one living with chronic Lupus, but I worry about the long-term effects and addictive nature of some   of the medications. Please, if anyone has experience with Kaiser and Lupus, I’d love to hear from you. //pete

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Hello pete and welcome to the newsgroup. I don’t know the answer to your question but REP uses Kaiser I think but doesn’t have a diagnosis of Lupus specifically. There’s been others ..their posts are in the archives, but we haven’t seen them here recently. Hang in there, hopefully someone will be able to help you out, but many are caught up in Christmas stuff (travel, visits etc) at the moment.. J – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -pete graycar wrote: > My wife suffers from Lupus (SLE) and we are considering changing to Kaiser > Permanente beginning Jan 1. > I wonder if any folks on this newsgroup have experience obtaining medical > services for Lupus in the Kaiser medical group?  If so, have you had good > experiences?  Was it easy to arrange for a knowledgeable specialist? > I just checked and all of the pain meds my wife is currently taking are not > covered by Kaiser — that’s one problem; although, I have to admit, I’d > love to see her come off some of the meds anyway.  Not that I’m an uncaring > husband who doesn’t understand the problems of one living with chronic > Lupus, but I worry about the long-term effects and addictive nature of some > of the medications. > Please, if anyone has experience with Kaiser and Lupus, I’d love to hear > from you. > //pete

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In article <3FD7CE2E.D9908…@execulink.com>, J <Motley…@exanple.org> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pete graycar wrote: > > My wife suffers from Lupus (SLE) and we are considering changing to Kaiser > > Permanente beginning Jan 1. > > I wonder if any folks on this newsgroup have experience obtaining medical > > services for Lupus in the Kaiser medical group?  If so, have you had good > > experiences?  Was it easy to arrange for a knowledgeable specialist? > > I just checked and all of the pain meds my wife is currently taking are not > > covered by Kaiser — that’s one problem; although, I have to admit, I’d > > love to see her come off some of the meds anyway.  Not that I’m an uncaring > > husband who doesn’t understand the problems of one living with chronic > > Lupus, but I worry about the long-term effects and addictive nature of some > > of the medications. > > Please, if anyone has experience with Kaiser and Lupus, I’d love to hear > > from you. > Hello pete and welcome to the newsgroup. > I don’t know the answer to your question but REP uses Kaiser I think but > doesn’t have a diagnosis of Lupus specifically.

That’s true, I don’t have SLE. I do have Kaiser and if the drugs are needed and prescribed by one of their doctors, they’re covered. One of the drug I take for my kidey disease is non-formulary but is covered anyway. As for the care you get, depends upon the doctor, but then again it’s very easy to change doctors there. I have nothing but praise for he doctors who care for me. — "Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner." – Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather

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Pete Please, for your wife’s sake, read about the difference between addiction and dependence.  If your pain has physical pain and takes pain meds for it, she is not addicted. You would never tell a diabetic not to use hs/her meds or a hypertension patient, etc. Pain deserves to be treated I have articles on this subject if you need them Nicole — Someone you know has lupus.  Help find the cure.  www.lupus.org "pete graycar" <pete.gray…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:Xns944D9DDBCA3C7petegraycar@64.164.98.49… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My wife suffers from Lupus (SLE) and we are considering changing to Kaiser > Permanente beginning Jan 1. > I wonder if any folks on this newsgroup have experience obtaining medical > services for Lupus in the Kaiser medical group?  If so, have you had good > experiences?  Was it easy to arrange for a knowledgeable specialist? > I just checked and all of the pain meds my wife is currently taking are not > covered by Kaiser — that’s one problem; although, I have to admit, I’d > love to see her come off some of the meds anyway.  Not that I’m an uncaring > husband who doesn’t understand the problems of one living with chronic > Lupus, but I worry about the long-term effects and addictive nature of some > of the medications. > Please, if anyone has experience with Kaiser and Lupus, I’d love to hear > from you. > //pete

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"Nicole H" <crimsonshedemonREM…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:MAUBb.3720$6Q2.2956@twister.socal.rr.com: > Pete > Please, for your wife’s sake, read about the difference between > addiction and dependence.  If your pain has physical pain and takes > pain meds for it, she is not addicted. > You would never tell a diabetic not to use hs/her meds or a > hypertension patient, etc. > Pain deserves to be treated > I have articles on this subject if you need them > Nicole

I’m duly chastised — Nicole, you are entirely correct.  Once in a while I dream of a day when Nanc will be free of pain medications.  In the beginning of her diagnosis of Lupus (some 9 years ago) I must admit to being rather uninformed and didn’t realize the extent of her illness.   However, please rest assured I have matured and progressed from those days.   Hopefully, Nanc will begin posting here so you all can meet and get to know her — she really is special and my loving wife of 25 years. Oh, by the way, thanks to REP for replying.  Turns out we have decided to go with United Health Care as Nanc’s current doctors are listed as within network and we’d rather not start all over with new doctors at Kasier.  I’m sure many of the folks within this newsgroup understand the problems associated with finding a doctor who takes Lupus and the related symptoms seriously. I’m impressed with the genuine love and care this group has for each other.  Lupus is indeed a terrible illness, but having an understanding support group helps a great deal. Thank you, //pete

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Pete Please don’t think I was trying to chastise you.  Just wanted to make sure you knew the difference.  I hear of so many suffering because of the stigma of pain medication. So happy to hear that you don’t feel that way.  I too long for the day that I’m medication free.  I was dx’d around 19yo.  At 28, I’m already sick and tired of being sick and tired. Take care Nicole — Someone you know has lupus.  Help find the cure.  www.lupus.org

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Hi Pete, I didn’t reply to your orginal post, because I am Canadian and have no info to offer when it comes to the health care system in the U.S. I am dropping by now to welcome you. I do hope that Nanc will join us. To be honest, most of us here do not tell our spouses about all that we go through on a daily basis. My family only hears what I think they "need to know." I share things here, on the NG though. It helps me cope, without feeling as though I am dragging my family down. My husband is very supportive, but I know he worries a lot about me. I don’t like to add any more to his concern than is necessary. It seems to me, that you are supportive too. That means a lot to someone who is chronically ill. There is much to learn from people here. I am glad that you found us. BJ-Sk. Canada "pete graycar" <pete.gray…@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:Xns944EA6263165Apetegraycar@64.164.98.51… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Nicole H" <crimsonshedemonREM…@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:MAUBb.3720$6Q2.2956@twister.socal.rr.com: > > Pete > > Please, for your wife’s sake, read about the difference between > > addiction and dependence.  If your pain has physical pain and takes > > pain meds for it, she is not addicted. > > You would never tell a diabetic not to use hs/her meds or a > > hypertension patient, etc. > > Pain deserves to be treated > > I have articles on this subject if you need them > > Nicole > I’m duly chastised — Nicole, you are entirely correct.  Once in a while > I dream of a day when Nanc will be free of pain medications.  In the > beginning of her diagnosis of Lupus (some 9 years ago) I must admit to > being rather uninformed and didn’t realize the extent of her illness. > However, please rest assured I have matured and progressed from those > days. > Hopefully, Nanc will begin posting here so you all can meet and get to > know her — she really is special and my loving wife of 25 years. > Oh, by the way, thanks to REP for replying.  Turns out we have decided > to go with United Health Care as Nanc’s current doctors are listed as > within network and we’d rather not start all over with new doctors at > Kasier.  I’m sure many of the folks within this newsgroup understand the > problems associated with finding a doctor who takes Lupus and the > related symptoms seriously. > I’m impressed with the genuine love and care this group has for each > other.  Lupus is indeed a terrible illness, but having an understanding > support group helps a great deal. > Thank you, > //pete

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Hi Pete, I can’t seem to keep quiet when I hear anyone talking about Kaiser. My mother bled from the rectum for a YEAR before they decided to do any tests; she had cancer. Luckily, she recovered. Three years ago my dad had an appt. with one of their docs to start a new med for high blood pressure but the doc was too busy to see him (he saw a nurse) & rescheduled him for two months later. He unfortunately didn’t recover; he died 2 weeks later. I’m not to keen on Kaiser. Candi ———- In article <Xns944D9DDBCA3C7petegray…@64.164.98.49>, pete graycar – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<pete.gray…@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >My wife suffers from Lupus (SLE) and we are considering changing to Kaiser >Permanente beginning Jan 1. >I wonder if any folks on this newsgroup have experience obtaining medical >services for Lupus in the Kaiser medical group?  If so, have you had good >experiences?  Was it easy to arrange for a knowledgeable specialist? >I just checked and all of the pain meds my wife is currently taking are not >covered by Kaiser — that’s one problem; although, I have to admit, I’d >love to see her come off some of the meds anyway.  Not that I’m an uncaring   >husband who doesn’t understand the problems of one living with chronic >Lupus, but I worry about the long-term effects and addictive nature of some   >of the medications. >Please, if anyone has experience with Kaiser and Lupus, I’d love to hear >from you. >//pete

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"Candi Bowen" <reen…@neo.rr.com> wrote in news:_tFCb.17689$Vg3.16125@fe3.columbus.rr.com: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Pete, > I can’t seem to keep quiet when I hear anyone talking about Kaiser. My > mother bled from the rectum for a YEAR before they decided to do any > tests; she had cancer. Luckily, she recovered. Three years ago my dad > had an appt. with one of their docs to start a new med for high blood > pressure but the doc was too busy to see him (he saw a nurse) & > rescheduled him for two months later. He unfortunately didn’t recover; > he died 2 weeks later. I’m not to keen on Kaiser. > Candi > ———- > In article <Xns944D9DDBCA3C7petegray…@64.164.98.49>, pete graycar > <pete.gray…@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>My wife suffers from Lupus (SLE) and we are considering changing to >>Kaiser Permanente beginning Jan 1. >>I wonder if any folks on this newsgroup have experience obtaining >>medical services for Lupus in the Kaiser medical group?  If so, have >>you had good experiences?  Was it easy to arrange for a knowledgeable >>specialist? >>I just checked and all of the pain meds my wife is currently taking >>are not covered by Kaiser — that’s one problem; although, I have to >>admit, I’d love to see her come off some of the meds anyway.  Not that >>I’m an uncaring  husband who doesn’t understand the problems of one >>living with chronic Lupus, but I worry about the long-term effects and >>addictive nature of some  of the medications. >>Please, if anyone has experience with Kaiser and Lupus, I’d love to >>hear from you. >>//pete

Thanks, Candi.  I am so sorry to hear of your loss.  No one should have to suffer the way your parents did.  You’ll be happy to know Nanc and I chose to go with United Health Care.   //pete

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Hi Pete, I am newly Dx and have Kaiser. Once you have a Rheumatologist you are well taken care of, the problem with Kaiser is GETTING to the specialist. They have treatment protocols that they use, and it took me months to get to the right MD. If you wife’s disease is confirmed and she is currently treated she will probably have no trouble seeing a Rheumatologist immediately. When they do an *intake* physical, that MD will refer her right off. I really like the Rheum MD I have. He gives out his private office phone number to ALL his patients. Teresa

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