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(snip) > I am starting to believe that confidence is a powerful tool and that my > success in life cannot be measured by how much I weigh. My weight is not > the source of my problems and perhaps through education I can change my > whole life, and I do not have to lose weight to do it. > To those whom it matters I weigh 110 Kg’s and I don’t care too much, whats > important is to have a life, whatever your religious beliefs, we only get > one spin on > this mortal coil so why waste it. > Regards > Peter > Seize the day. Remember to swallow this simple phrase once in the morning > and once at lunch time, better still apply it immediately.
Hi Gang Wow! I’m impressed. A philosopher in the group. We have a linguist (Bertel), a musician (Bill), a humorist – actually several (MOGG, Peter, etc.), computer whizes (Chris and Chanoch), a researcher (Irwin), a philosopher (Peter), etc. Ladies do you notice something? We need to get off our Roho cusions and put our talents to better use. I know we have some out there. We have to let ‘em shine!!! L
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LaVonne Murphy <mscan…@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > Hi Gang > Wow! I’m impressed. A philosopher in the group. > We have a linguist (Bertel), a musician (Bill), a humorist – actually > several (MOGG, Peter, etc.), computer whizes (Chris and Chanoch), a > researcher (Irwin), a philosopher (Peter), etc. > Ladies do you notice something? We need to get off our Roho cusions and > put our talents to better use. I know we have some out there. We have > to let ‘em shine!!! > L
Hi LaVonne, I think there are several ladies out there with wonderful talents, but might be a little shy. I would like everyone to know that there is one fine painter out there (water color, mostly) who may not make herself known, but who I think has a wonderful talent! That would be Lois Mathews from Michigan (hope you don’t mind, Lois). Lois has sent me some photos she has taken of some of her paintings, and they are wonderful… she’s even got some of her paintings in a gallery down in Florida somewhere. Lois, I hope I didn’t embarrass you, but I do think you need to be recognized. Thanks. Bill — +—————————————————————-+ | Bill Nash work email: bill-n…@ti.com | | Music Lover home email: Muzit…@aol.com | | | | "If you pick up a starving dog My CD "Mostly True Stories" | | and make him prosperous, he is available through: | | will not bite you: this is the Putsie Cat Records | | principal difference between a P.O. Box 702711 | | dog and a man." Dallas, TX. 75370 | | – Mark Twain | +—————————————————————-+
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ocnb…@aol.com (OCNBLUE) wrote: >I have been taking Fastin (phentermine) for 5=6 years now. It keeps me >thin and gives me energy. My doctor said he would not normally prescibe >that drug for over 3 months but since it helps me get to work and function >he approved it. He also stated that he felt it was mind over matter and >doesn’t really feel that they are doing anything for me anymore. But I >know if I’m off them for a few days I can’t even get out of bed.
I agree with you. I feel it helps greatly. I used to take Amantadine, but now I have no need. I feel great(besides my current cold) and have started to do my excercise again. My Doctor feels it is of great benefit, and I have been on for over 1 year. Ally
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In a message dated 97-01-09 05:27:01 EST, you write: << Ladies do you notice something? We need to get off our Roho cusions and put our talents to better use. I know we have some out there. We have to let ‘em shine!!! >> You are right. We all have to try harder. Things are getting really bad when we have a thread that goes on for over a week about whether or not the toilet seat should be left up or down. It should be left down, by the way. Crystal
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I am a female fire fighter, wife, and mother of 4. I think thats my talent. Patti
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starlit…@aol.com wrote: > I am a female fire fighter, wife, and mother of 4. I think thats my > talent. > Patti
So we have the first claim, by a woman, to fame. Being a good mom to one is nothing to sneeze at and this lady has 4!!! And she is a sort of ground breaker into one of this worlds most dangerous occupations. I’m impressed!!! L
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> I very recently started reading a book that came to my attention through > our local paper’s book review titled "Well Rounded: Eight Simple Steps for > Changing Your Life Not Your Size" it’s turning out to be a good read, it is > an excellent choice for those of us that have dieted more than we can > count.
A book I read 13 years ago still influences me today…called Pathfinders by Gail Sheedy (I think the spelling is right). A great book about what makes happy people tick…suprisingly this book gave me extraordinary comfort with myself. I found the peace I needed to accept who, what, and how heavy I was (and am).
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good for you bill! I have one of her watercolors, oh boy is it a watercolor? At any rate she wrote me a thank-you note with an original Lois painting on the front. I have it safely put away with my ther pictures waiting to be framed. I got to meet both Lois and Dan while they stayed one night at a B&B here in Henniker. Bill, I love your songs so much I have a fantasy of you and your crew playing here to benefit MS. we have 4 of us with this thing. Ah well fantasies are nice’ At 01:55 PM 1/9/97 GMT, you wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->LaVonne Murphy <mscan…@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >> Hi Gang >> Wow! I’m impressed. A philosopher in the group. >> We have a linguist (Bertel), a musician (Bill), a humorist – actually >> several (MOGG, Peter, etc.), computer whizes (Chris and Chanoch), a >> researcher (Irwin), a philosopher (Peter), etc. >> Ladies do you notice something? We need to get off our Roho cusions and >> put our talents to better use. I know we have some out there. We have >> to let ‘em shine!!! >> L >Hi LaVonne, >I think there are several ladies out there with wonderful >talents, but might be a little shy. I would like everyone >to know that there is one fine painter out there (water >color, mostly) who may not make herself known, but who I >think has a wonderful talent! That would be Lois Mathews >from Michigan (hope you don’t mind, Lois). Lois has sent >me some photos she has taken of some of her paintings, and >they are wonderful… she’s even got some of her paintings >in a gallery down in Florida somewhere. >Lois, I hope I didn’t embarrass you, but I do think you >need to be recognized. >Thanks. >Bill >– >+—————————————————————-+ >| Bill Nash work email: bill-n…@ti.com | >| Music Lover home email: Muzit…@aol.com | >| | >| "If you pick up a starving dog My CD "Mostly True Stories" | >| and make him prosperous, he is available through: | >| will not bite you: this is the Putsie Cat Records | >| principal difference between a P.O. Box 702711 | >| dog and a man." Dallas, TX. 75370 | >| – Mark Twain | >+—————————————————————-+
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Yes, it’s very hard work doing what I do, BUT, I wouldn’t want to see my life without my family.They keep me wanting to go on and on. We all have wisdom that noone else does.It’s inside your soul. Patti
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Sorry can’t agree with you on this one. If you look better you’ll feel better. Trying to jusify being heavy is WRONG! There are many healthy people who are fat and just because you have MS doesn’t make you fat! Yes decreased activity, meds etc… still no excuse. MS is a horrible disease and the public image of a person with MS is an overweight person in a wheelchair, shaking and drooling. Which I find hard to believe considering Richard Pryor & Annette Funicello who are both underweight. But then again I guess the public doesn’t consider them average. I find it offensive becasue I have MS and have none of the above but embaressed to admit it because of how differently I would be viewed by my peers. It’s strange that you can tell people you have Cancer, Diabetes or Lupus and it really doesn’t change how they view you but tell you you have MS and all h*ll breaks loose. It’s seems that if you have a sick day it’s beacuse " well you know she has MS" most other diseases, you just have a cold or flu! Point is, don’t let your self go, hey if your disabled in one way make up for it in another. And don’t say brain power, as you know MS can screw with that also. Scuba this is just my viewpoint on MS
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On 24 Dec 1996 13:13:47 GMT, "Brent " <atec…@tpgi.com.au> wrote: >Hey Susan that just means there is more of you to like – Sort of makes us >all winners >Regards, Peter
Hi Peter, That was such a nice thing to say to Susan. Either we’ve gained from no exercise and eating, or no matabolism, or we’ve lost tons. Can’t win for losing. Just remember, I’m a born Winner! Love, Stelle
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Now wait a minute Stelle. Are you a ‘born’ Winner or did you marry a Winner? For me, I married Young so I could die Young! H & P, P. At 17:21 12/27/96 GMT, you wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi Peter, >That was such a nice thing to say to Susan. Either we’ve gained from >no exercise and eating, or no matabolism, or we’ve lost tons. Can’t >win for losing. Just remember, I’m a born Winner! >Love, Stelle
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PamY wrote: > Now wait a minute Stelle. Are you a ‘born’ Winner or did you marry a > Winner? For me, I married Young so I could die Young!
That was bad Pam, baaad! — Paul Eberl it’s better to TRY and RISK failure than not to try and guarrantee it! = | | __ | | (__@) ______ (__@) (__@) _______ (__@)__/
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Hi Pam, Seems your server, Equinox.net never heard of denmom. I have two posts returned to me that they tried to send over 2 hours ago. If this gets to you, please reply. Love, Stelle
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I have been taking Fastin (phentermine) for 5=6 years now. It keeps me thin and gives me energy. My doctor said he would not normally prescibe that drug for over 3 months but since it helps me get to work and function he approved it. He also stated that he felt it was mind over matter and doesn’t really feel that they are doing anything for me anymore. But I know if I’m off them for a few days I can’t even get out of bed.
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ewinner <ewin…@westworld.com> wrote in article <32c40532.23747…@news.westworld.com>… > On 24 Dec 1996 13:13:47 GMT, "Brent " <atec…@tpgi.com.au> wrote: > >Hey Susan that just means there is more of you to like – Sort of makes us > >all winners >Regards, Peter > Hi Peter, > That was such a nice thing to say to Susan. Either we’ve gained from > no exercise and eating, or no matabolism, or we’ve lost tons. Can’t > win for losing. Just remember, I’m a born Winner! > Love, Stelle
Gidday Stelle, Having travelled lifes road for nearly 40 years and putting up with all sorts of funny people along the way, it’s easy to cut the chaff from the hay. What I said above may have been nice to hear, but it is also the absolute truth. I have followed Susans postings and I think she is wonderful. Now for all I know she could have two heads and a tail but it doesn’t matter here so why should it matter in the actual world. Why because this world is full of bullshit (excuse the strong language but it’s the best word to use), most people are very good actors traipsing along pretending about all sorts of things. It really saddens me (and I don’t mean to appear judgemental or better) that so much value is placed on personal appearance. We bullshit to others and we bullshit to ourselves about almost everything and just end up feeling inferior taking a whole lot of people down with us. Some hypocrites will say that is a fair return for our dishonesty, but it is all so very sad. I very recently started reading a book that came to my attention through our local paper’s book review titled "Well Rounded: Eight Simple Steps for Changing Your Life Not Your Size" it’s turning out to be a good read, it is an excellent choice for those of us that have dieted more than we can count. Well Rounded aims to teach us to be comfortable in the skin we are in – regardless of size. It’s a timely book in a world thats lacks commonsense information on how to live within so called larger than life bodies. A couple of months ago weight was an issue discussed within this group and it seemed everyone then agreed that their best weight loss efforts came whilst they were feeling good about themselves. This book which costs $49 in Australia comes from America and is written by Catherine Lippincott. If you read it and come away feeling better then you really are a winner. If you read it and feel cheated then nothings changed and you have financially lost little. Better still it may be available from a library. I am starting to believe that confidence is a powerful tool and that my success in life cannot be measured by how much I weigh. My weight is not the source of my problems and perhaps through education I can change my whole life, and I do not have to lose weight to do it. To those whom it matters I weigh 110 Kg’s and I don’t care too much, whats important is to have a life, whatever your religious beliefs, we only get one spin on this mortal coil so why waste it. Regards Peter Seize the day. Remember to swallow this simple phrase once in the morning and once at lunch time, better still apply it immediately.
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susan guziejka <s_guzie…@MOUNTK.CONKNET.COM> wrote in article <199612140326.FAA10…@techunix.technion.ac.il>… > I can certainly empathise (sp?) I worked, starting with a > dietician, to learn how to eat properly, After staying on the diet, It > lost almost 89lbs. But since the dx and almost all my life it’s been one > accident. or some serious illness and several surgeries I have put almoost > all back on, BUMMER!.
luv and meow susan Hey Susan that just means there is more of you to like – Sort of makes us all winners Regards Peter
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susan guziejka <s_guzie…@MOUNTK.CONKNET.COM> wrote in article <199612140326.FAA10…@techunix.technion.ac.il>… >> I can certainly empathise (sp?) I worked, starting with a >> dietician, to learn how to eat properly, After staying on the diet, >It >> lost almost 89lbs. But since the dx and almost all my life it’s been >one >> accident. or some serious illness and several surgeries I have put almoost >> all back on, BUMMER!.
luv and meow susan Hey Susan that just means there is more of you to like – Sort of makes us all winners Regards Peter
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At 05:11 12/15/96 -0500, you wrote: >Debbie >I was offered Redux by my Endocrinologist who controls my diabetes. I refused >it. And >later had a relapse that put me very inactive compared to what I was and >eventually into >the hospital. There they put me on a 1200 cal diet and I began to lose. I am >now off >my insulin and onto a drug called Glucophage which helps control the blood >sugar and >also has an appetite suppressant. I have lost your 30 lbs and one more in the >last 3 >months.
<snip snip snippity snip> Congrats LaVonne! 31 lbs. in 3 mos. is excellent! But you do prove my theory that nothing every really disappears … it just goes somewhere else. You lost it, Debbie found it. Now, if I could only find out who lost 14 lbs in the last 2 months, I’d gladly return it!!! <VBG> Hugs n prayers, P. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PamY Some days you’re the pigeon and some days you’re the statue. 
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Bill D Dockrey wrote: > I was diagnosed 3 years ago with MS and have not been the active person I once > was. Consequently I’ve put on about 30 pounds.
<snip> I would feel a little bit more like myself again. I’ld > appreciate any feedback. > Debbie S.
Hi Debbie! We discussed this very thing a few weeks ago. Seems quite a few of us have the same problem. My GP wouldn’t give me Redux because she was concerned about side effects and perhaps some repurcussions with the MS. (there is a nasty lung disease possibility as a side effect). She did however, give me a mild amphetamine to get me started, and it did curb my appetite a little. So I watch calories/fat and try to keep under 1500 calories a day. It is slow (if I starved it would go faster I’m sure, but being home all day it’s just too hard) but I have lost an average of 5 lbs a month for 4 months. I figure after another 6-8 months I MIGHT look something like my old self. The weight sure does erode your self image doesn’t it? The little I’ve lost so far has really made a difference in being able to do some things — tying my shoe laces, for instance. Remember ‘tho that losing weight DOESN’T make MS go away (if only it were that easy). That’s one reason I’m not cutting back too far on the calories…I get weak and feel worse. I could go on and on about the weight issue, but do try something. It will make you feel proactive at least.
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On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:34:51 +0100, Bill D Dockrey <seed…@HCN.HCNEWS.COM> wrote: >I was diagnosed 3 years ago with MS and have not been the active person I once >was. Consequently I’ve put on about 30 pounds. I was curious if anyone with >MS has tried the redux or the fen/fen diet suppressants. If so, any adverse
Welcome to the group Debbie, but sorry about your dx. If anyone is taking an anti-depressant, they won’t prescribe fen/fen or Redux. Actually, I tried to get my doc to prescribe them, and was told no go. I would love to lose weight, and feel better about my body, but the one thing that helps me to feel good about myself, is a treat to the beauty salon. That helps me everytime. Dieting does nothing for me, and I only eat small meals. It’s exercise that takes weight off me, and I’ve been unable to do it for awhile. Hoping, with the Avonex, that I’ll get some more energy back, and be able to do more. Hugs, Stelle
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Bill D Dockrey wrote: > I was diagnosed 3 years ago with MS and have not been the active person I once > was. Consequently I’ve put on about 30 pounds. I was curious if anyone with > MS has tried the redux or the fen/fen diet suppressants. If so, any adverse > reactions to it and what were they. I think if I could at least look like the > way I used to maybe I would feel a little bit more like myself again. I’ld > appreciate any feedback. > Debbie S.
Debbie I was offered Redux by my Endocrinologist who controls my diabetes. I refused it. And later had a relapse that put me very inactive compared to what I was and eventually into the hospital. There they put me on a 1200 cal diet and I began to lose. I am now off my insulin and onto a drug called Glucophage which helps control the blood sugar and also has an appetite suppressant. I have lost your 30 lbs and one more in the last 3 months. When I was trying to decide to go on the Redux, I talked to my pharmacist about that and Fenfen. He said Redux is the much better drug as far as side effects. He checked all of the drugs I take including PRN (as needed) and over the counter to see if there would be any conflict. This was *before* I made any decision. Also it helps to talk to a dietician to see how your diet can be changed to be better for a sedentary lifestyle and your body type. I was suprised that I was making huge errors even though the calories I was eating were much the same before and after starting to lose the weight. Play it smart. Don’t start this until after Christmas. Maybe before New Years but why feel guilty for having that taste of candied yams. Give yourself some time to adjust before such temptation occurs. Then you learn it’s not so hard to skip it and if you have something favorite you can taste a tablespoonfull if you fill up on other good stuff first. Then consider yourself lucky you only have 30 lbs to lose. I had 130 when I started. I’ve been putting it on since I was 10 and have worked on eating it on for a little over 40 years. Good luck to you. L
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I can certainly empathise (sp?) I worked, starting with a dietician, to learn how to eat properly, After staying on the diet, It lost almost 89lbs. But since the dx and almost all my life it’s been one accident. or some serious illness and several surgeries I have put almoost all back on, BUMMER!. two years ago I used to be able to exercise and was maintaing the weight loss. But sorry to say I know nothing about redux. If you find some info p;ease write me. good luck! At 03:34 PM 12/13/96 +0100, you wrote: >I was diagnosed 3 years ago with MS and have not been the active person I once >was. Consequently I’ve put on about 30 pounds. I was curious if anyone with >MS has tried the redux or the fen/fen diet suppressants. If so, any adverse >reactions to it and what were they. I think if I could at least look like the >way I used to maybe I would feel a little bit more like myself again. I’ld >appreciate any feedback. > Debbie S.
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I was diagnosed 3 years ago with MS and have not been the active person I once was. Consequently I’ve put on about 30 pounds. I was curious if anyone with MS has tried the redux or the fen/fen diet suppressants. If so, any adverse reactions to it and what were they. I think if I could at least look like the way I used to maybe I would feel a little bit more like myself again. I’ld appreciate any feedback. Debbie S.
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The fen-phen pills have LOTS of nasty side effects, I’m told….some life threatening. I personally wouldn’t go that route. All I’ve found to work is changing my eating habits, which is VERY difficult, and increase exercise, even if its from a chair. Also very difficult. I’m way overweight, but at least have been able to maintain my weight for the last 18 months — no increases, (but no decreases, either…) Ann
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