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In article <3C396289.2234F…@rogers.com>, J Wootton <jwoot…@rogers.com> wrote [] >Where’s Andy?
Here, reading with great interest but devoid of useful input! — Andy [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society] For Austrian philately <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/austamps> For Lupus <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/lupus> For my other interests <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk>
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That was what the doctor told my daughter, that the parvo infection could trigger lupus. I’m sorry if I misled anyone, but my daughter is 38, not a child. 
She has a family and job to keep up with, usually so full of energy and this is taking a toll on her and her family. Thanks for the links. jo nj
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At least I have discovered that the parvo in dogs and parvo in humans are two different viruses. Now I can stop sending DD emails with woofs and arfs in them! :) jo nj tedco wrote: > I have heard of parvo in canines, but not in humans. I had heard of fifth disease but know nothing about it. Is there anything on the net? <snip>
Sue in Tallahassee>>
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I have heard of the Fifth’s Disease. It often runs wild thru the Day Cares, and grammer schools.Especially during the winter months. It is related to Roseola and that family of diseases. Reckkon they had one more, And they didn’t know what to name it….so just called it the Fifth. Hope she feels better soon… barbtoo
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This came from my pediatrician friend. If you still have questions email me. Bev Hi Bev! Yes, Fifths disease is caused by a virus called Parvovirus B19. Yes you can get it as an adult. However, there is NO treatment for it! It is a virus. Some kids with blood disorders (such as sickle cell disease) can have life threatening "aplasia" which means their blood counts drop dangerously low. This impairs their ability to deliver oxygen to the tissues. Otherwise, if you are otherwise healthy, it is no big deal. EXCEPT, if you are exposed to the virus and you are pregnant! Then it can cause damage to the fetus, and those babies are monitored closely with high level ultrasounds! Most people are exposed in childhood and therefore have built up an immunity to it so that if they are exposed as an adult, it is USUALLY not evident! Hope this helps. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"LJL" <l…@nac.net> wrote in message news:3C3A3DAF.5A889FD4@nac.net… > That was what the doctor told my daughter, that the parvo infection > could trigger lupus. > I’m sorry if I misled anyone, but my daughter is 38, not a child. > She has a family and job to keep up with, usually so full of energy and > this is taking a toll on her and her family. > Thanks for the links. > jo > nj
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On Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:30:40 -0500, LJL <l…@nac.net> wrote: >That was what the doctor told my daughter, that the parvo infection >could trigger lupus. >I’m sorry if I misled anyone, but my daughter is 38, not a child. >She has a family and job to keep up with, usually so full of energy and >this is taking a toll on her and her family.
Most docs feel that viruses can trigger flares – this is not the same as *causing* the disease, as I’m sure you understand. CMV and EBV are also thought to be able to trigger a flare (perhaps the first flare for your daughter therefore appearing to trigger the disease itself.) Still, her age is right on in there where those predisposed are more likely to start showing symptoms – especially if their immune system is triggered by infection, injury, stress, pregnancy and so on. Since there’s no treatment for the virus itself, than she’ll need to rely on treatment for the symptoms and for lupus. Hopefully, she’ll get through the flare soon and have more energy again. blessed wishes, kcat *********************************** KCat – I am not a medical professional. The contents of this post are based soley on my experiences and opinions http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/mypage.htm http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/aslfaq20.htm ("`-”-/").___..–”"`-._ (`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.’`) (_Y_.)’ ._ ) `._ `. “-..-” _..`–’_..-_/ /–’_.’ ,’ (()),-” (()),’ (((.-’
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Hi LJL, I have heard of Fifth disease. It is my understanding that it is considered another childhood virus like measles or chickenpox. It runs it’s course without treatment. The parvo virus is a canine virus. Perhaps the human form is related. I wish I could be of more help. I wish your daughter well. Let us know the outcome,please. Regards, BJ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"LJL" <l…@nac.net> wrote in message news:3C3905B7.5471A605@nac.net… > for their sites for info on lupus and private emails about my daughter. > She had her first appt. with the rheumy, surprising it is the same doc > that treated my sclerderma! > The dr. did not look at the blood tests that had been done before and > did all her own tests, took a history and asked a lot of questions. > She is of the opinion that it is not lupus but a parvo infection that > was left untreated. Parvo is also called Fifth disease. > We’re hoping that she’s right. > Has anyone heard of this before? > jo > nj
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LJL wrote: > for their sites for info on lupus and private emails about my daughter. > She had her first appt. with the rheumy, surprising it is the same doc > that treated my sclerderma! > The dr. did not look at the blood tests that had been done before and > did all her own tests, took a history and asked a lot of questions. > She is of the opinion that it is not lupus but a parvo infection that > was left untreated. Parvo is also called Fifth disease. > We’re hoping that she’s right. > Has anyone heard of this before?
No, but here’s some search results http://www.google.com/search?q=+%22fifth+disease%22&sa=G&as_qdr=all If that doesn’t work… http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/consumer/fifth.htm http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/parvovirus/B19.htm http://www.vh.org/Patients/IHB/Peds/Infectious/FifthDisease1.html http://www.hlth.gov.bc.ca/hlthfile/hfile54.html What’s frustrating about the above is (IIRC), they don’t say how long it lasts (or how long before the person is fully recovered). Also thought this might be of interest to you http://www.mtio.com/lupus/docmess/3024.html At this time, there is research going on that is investigating the link between Parvo B19 and lupus. We know that a parvo infection can mimic lupus, even with such things as positive anti-dsDNA, arthritis and rashes. We think that such severe infections with Parvo do not last more than several months. But some of the research we’re doing might be indicating that Parvo (along with some other viral agents) may actually trigger lupus in certain predisposed individuals. And of course, there’s nothing that indicates you can’t have both a Parvo infection and lupus at the same time. <snip> Where’s Andy? The above has got me wondering if rheumys routinely screen for this. and… whether since scleroderma is autoimmune, you should continue to monitor your child for Lupus..ie have her rechecked. from time to time. HTH J
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for their sites for info on lupus and private emails about my daughter. She had her first appt. with the rheumy, surprising it is the same doc that treated my sclerderma! The dr. did not look at the blood tests that had been done before and did all her own tests, took a history and asked a lot of questions. She is of the opinion that it is not lupus but a parvo infection that was left untreated. Parvo is also called Fifth disease. We’re hoping that she’s right. Has anyone heard of this before? jo nj
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I have heard of parvo in canines, but not in humans. I had heard of fifth disease but know nothing about it. Is there anything on the net? Parvo in dogs is nasty, but there is a vaccine to prevent it. I had a yellow cur who contracted it and he was raw from mouth to the other end. He refused to eat and I had to make chicken broth and force feed him to save his life. The vet said it would weaken his heart and he wouldn’t live as long as a normal animal. This may have nothing to do with the parvo in humans. I was certainly exposed to it with the dog and nothing happened. We will keep your daughter in our prayers Sue in Tallahassee
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I know exactly what Fifth Disease is both my girls had it. My first child came down with it while in the doctor’s office for a well baby visit and I watched her bloom in a rash and sat there freaking until the doctor came in and saw it. I think she was about 3 or 4 yrs. old at the time. He laughed when I didn’t know what it was. It’s the 5th childhood disease. Now I can’t put the first 4 in order of their being noted as childhood diseases but let’s just say I think it is Measles (black), German Measles (red or Rubella), Mumps, Chicken Pox and Fifths. Now, I ‘m not very medically inclined but I have never heard it called Parvo!! (Parvo is very dangerous in animals and I never knew human could catch it.) 5th is a lacy rash that has no cure and is gone in about 5 days. The rash is VERY lacy and eventually runs together into a big flat rash. Think of doilies with lacy edges. It can be itchy but not always. Mild low grade fever come with it. And it is not as dangerous as the other childhood diseases. Go find an old Doctor Spock baby book. I never really agreed with his philosophy on raising children but he has wonderful descriptions of childhood diseases. My youngest child didn’t get it until she was in her teens. I barely remember her waking up and telling me something was wrong with her. Sure enough she was covered with a rash. I told her to call the doctor and she did and she went to his office that morning. He told her to tell me I should recognize something when I saw it for the second time!! It was 5th.(BTW, I love my pediatrician.) I think she was a little itchy but the first daughter wasn’t. Benadryl is the big relief med and at least mine slept though the problem after a dose of that!!!!! Bev – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"LJL" <l…@nac.net> wrote in message news:3C3905B7.5471A605@nac.net… > for their sites for info on lupus and private emails about my daughter. > She had her first appt. with the rheumy, surprising it is the same doc > that treated my sclerderma! > The dr. did not look at the blood tests that had been done before and > did all her own tests, took a history and asked a lot of questions. > She is of the opinion that it is not lupus but a parvo infection that > was left untreated. Parvo is also called Fifth disease. > We’re hoping that she’s right. > Has anyone heard of this before? > jo > nj
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